Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

[markysimmo]

By not raising the tax thresholds for years has effectively mean't thousands have ended up paying more tax and thus a reduction in income

Anything from our fabulous new Govt about when those might be looked at ??
Tories were going to freeze them until 2028 I think

 

[Mikey10]

@scaramanga is beside himself that we are 'tinkling' his money away on giving pay rises to people that care for other people.

Understandable as completely jars against his own ideologies.

Tbf, it must be hard to watch neoliberalism slowly being exposed as a con, and outdated, when your whole worldview is founded on it.

 

[Mikey10]

By not raising the tax thresholds for years has effectively mean't thousands have ended up paying more tax and thus a reduction in income

Anything from our fabulous new Govt about when those might be looked at ??
Tories were going to freeze them until 2028 I think

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

 

[markysimmo]

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

Cool you can pay some of mine then, top man

 

[glasgowspur]

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

Think most people are of the same mind, bug the services are going backwards.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

Might be a slight generalisation but there is quite a clear dividing between people's outlooks

 

[Mikey10]

Cool you can pay some of mine then, top man

You’ll be paying your own share when they go up - as it should be. No tax on memes and misinformation though, so keep knocking yourself out there, buddy.

 

[Mikey10]

Think most people are of the same mind, bug the services are going backwards.

Let’s see where they are in a couple of years.

 

[markysimmo]

You’ll be paying your own share when they go up - as it should be. No tax on memes and misinformation though, so keep knocking yourself out there, buddy.

I pay my fair share and always have done

 

[glasgowspur]

Let’s see where they are in a couple of years.

Of course we in Scotland have higher income tax and the services are going down the drain.

 

[Rorschach]

You’ll be paying your own share when they go up - as it should be. No tax on memes and misinformation though, so keep knocking yourself out there, buddy.

I find them quite taxing

 

[thfcsteff]

@scaramanga is beside himself that we are 'tinkling' his money away on giving pay rises to people that care for other people.

Understandable as completely jars against his own ideologies.

Exactly. @scaramanga has been nothing if not consistent in his repeated disregard for the working class. Presenting to him the logic, let alone moral requirement, to pay these people properly whether driven by an inflation economy or not, is a waste of time.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Is conflate the new buzz word

 

[monkeybarry]

By not raising the tax thresholds for years has effectively mean't thousands have ended up paying more tax and thus a reduction in income

Anything from our fabulous new Govt about when those might be looked at ??
Tories were going to freeze them until 2028 I think

You really do seem to have a chip on your shoulder about the result of the election.

Ordinary practice is for that kind of policy to built into the budget. So look out for it then. I would expect something along those lines (IE something to ease the middle class tax burden), combined with tax raising measures aimed at high earners, big business and tax avoiders.

 

[monkeybarry]

Is conflate the new buzz word

Not on its own

 

[monkeybarry]

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

This is really interesting.
So for my time in the civil service it's been under the Tories. And the spending ethos has always been shortsighted and lowest cost, lowest value product.
Public services do work - within the restrictions set on them by spending levels; it'll be interesting to see if Labour can find a politically justifiable way of allowing investment spending rather than just plugging a hole spending.
I'm not expecting Keynesian - the country is too far down the Tory rabbit hole to cope with that anytime soon. But some expansive thinking would be good

 

[Mikey10]

This is really interesting.
So for my time in the civil service it's been under the Tories. And the spending ethos has always been shortsighted and lowest cost, lowest value product.
Public services do work - within the restrictions set on them by spending levels; it'll be interesting to see if Labour can find a politically justifiable way of allowing investment spending rather than just plugging a hole spending.
I'm not expecting Keynesian - the country is too far down the Tory rabbit hole to cope with that anytime soon. But some expansive thinking would be good

It’s the old problem: many Britons want Scandinavian style public services while paying US style tax.

 

[Gutter Boy]

It’s the old problem: many Britons want Scandinavian style public services while big business and rich people pay US style tax.

Slight edit

 

[thfcsteff]

I’m very happy to pay more tax if public services actually work.

Absolutely...which of course would require less terrible sub-contracting to brick companies who charge too much and skimp on actually doing what they're contracted to do properly. I suspect a not-too-deep dig into some of the contracts given by the previous government would reveal some (not so) startling self-interest equations.

 

[Danishfurniturelover]

Absolutely...which of course would require less terrible sub-contracting to brick companies who charge too much and skimp on actually doing what they're contracted to do properly. I suspect a not-too-deep dig into some of the contracts given by the previous government would reveal some (not so) startling self-interest equations.

I would suggest looking at where and what former members of the government are doing now. George Osborne had how many directors jobs?

Im liking the start Starmer has made with the railways. Want to see the same with the water companies.

Heard dont know if it true but they have got rid of the tax relief on Research and Development for companies. Think that would be a mistake, if true.