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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)

Gutter Boy said:
Itinerant parliaments were the norm in this country for about 700 years. It's not exactly new.

Politicians aren't important, or at least shouldn't be. Every school hall in the country should be able to pull together 600 plastic chairs, a voting corridor and a roaming mic. What else do they need?
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Secure communications and a bomb shelter.

Politicians should be important.
 
Gutter Boy said:
I’d get rid of all the tiers of government too (district, county, metropolitan, mayoral, national) and just have 2 layers – county and national.

I don’t believe in directly elected upper chambers though, that just creates the chaos you see in America. They should be elected from within the professions (at a ratio relative to their prevalence in society), like the Irish upper house.
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If we had stayed in the EU we should have removed at least one level government as a trade off.
EUP
MP
Devolved MP
local council is at least one to many in my view.
Its nuts, and when you look at the costs, bloody hell.

Your upper house sounds quite limited, i'm not a professional, but i have good common sense, an ability to organise and lasting loyalty to any particular organisation or political party, all of which i think would make me a good candidate, but would i be barred because I wasn't a professional?
 
Wow. Took them long enough to find the backbone. I wonder how many will follow suit. A couple more and Boris staying will be untenable (it should already be so but he’ll cling on like a limpet ).
 
glasgowspur said:
If we had stayed in the EU we should have removed at least one level government as a trade off.
EUP
MP
Devolved MP
local council is at least one to many in my view.
Its nuts, and when you look at the costs, bloody hell.

Your upper house sounds quite limited, i'm not a professional, but i have good common sense, an ability to organise and lasting loyalty to any particular organisation or political party, all of which i think would make me a good candidate, but would i be barred because I wasn't a professional?
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Everyone if a professional, except the unemployed, but unemployed would have their quota too. 4 doctors, 5 nurses, 3 janitors, 10 shop workers - that kind of thing. Not having politicians is exactly the point. It's a representative system, but which isn't directly elected. Remember its a check on the lower house, not something to reinforce it.

The Irish system isn't exactly how I'd envisage it/has it's own problems, but there's info on their vocational panels here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vocational_panel
 
Interesting to watch Ben Wallace and Nadhim Zahawi now. Along with Javid and Sunak, they are probably the only cabinet ministers with a hope of a job under the next leader - i.e. the only ones who don't owe everything to the person of BJ
 
Gutter Boy said:
Interesting to watch Ben Wallace and Nadhim Zahawi now. Along with Javid and Sunak, they are probably the only cabinet ministers with a hope of a job under the next leader - i.e. the only ones who don't owe everything to the person of BJ
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Ben Wallace is favourite to be the next leader
 
What a lame arse coup. A damp squid (why does gg auto correct squi b to squid!) Rishi doesn’t want to take the can for the financial woes coming up. Rats and the sinking ship.

Crazy thing is Boris has one biggest democratic mandates ever. And for better or - more likely worse - he’s highly electable. Not sure the next incumbent will carry the people. They will be the fall guy picking up the pieces after a series of brick shows, the main one being Brexit.
 
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SpurMeUp said:
What a lame arse coup. damp squid. Rishi doesn’t want to take the can for the financial woes coming up. Rats and the sinking ship.

Crazy thing is Boris has one biggest democratic mandates ever. And for better or - more likely worse - he’s highly electable. Not sure the next incumbent will carry the people. They will be the fall guy picking up the pieces after a series of brick shows, the main one being Brexit.
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I'd actually say the opposite - if they find someone who has competence and decency (maybe a bit of an ask from the available pool), it's a bit of a free hit with 2.5 years till the next election. Our electoral system allows for a complete new government, a clean sweep within the same parliament. Major managed it a bit (he fell apart in the following parliament); Brown never really did.
 
Tbh what I find amazing is not Boris’ buffoonery - that was expected - it is the perversion within the Tory party.

Tory MP sexually assaulting a 15 year old

Another Tory MP arrested for *struggle cuddle* and sexual assault spanning 7 years.

Another Tory MP touching people up.

And yet another who was too stupid to watch porn on his own time.

What a depraved bunch!
 
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