monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Erm.....you literally just don't put cheese on it.
That's not even me sarcastic, there are plenty of fantastic no cheese pizza recipies.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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That's not even me sarcastic, there are plenty of fantastic no cheese pizza recipies.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
Almost any pizza place will do you a no-cheese option nowadays. I can’t resist vegan Dominos as they do vegan cheese just as greasy and bad for you as the dairy option! Pizza Express is another level though.
Pizza Hut rather oddly do a Beyond Meat range but with dairy cheese
I'll try it. I've tried non-meat meat before and it was like eating an insole's abortion.
Hopefully the cheese is better.
I suppose you could call that pizza in the way alcohol free wine is technically wine and caffeine free coffee is technically coffee.
Sort of misses much of the point though.
AuroRaman
Chris Armstrong
Do you remember which brand it was? Some are not great, others are so close to the taste it’s suspicious.
appreciate you trying! As I mentioned before, some cheese brands still have a way to go. I mostly prefer the nut-based ones but they are more costly. I don’t think vegan cheeses and meats will ever exactly the same as animal based, which I think causes a negative reaction more than the vegan version itself tasting bad. I also can’t begin to count the number of times I’ve offered someone a vegan version of something, which they’ve started enjoying, then when I mention it’s vegan they literally start choking and wretching!
I personally try to avoid the fake stuff in favour of a whole food diet, however it’s great for junk/fast food options on Deliveroo etc. If you’re ever interested in cooking and trying some recipes at home that emulate meaty/dairy taste without the fake stuff I’d highly recommend these guys https://www.bosh.tv/
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
You could, indeed you should - it's Marinara. Pizza didn't start with cheese on.
So it's closer to what grape juice is to wine.
No, it was in a vegan restaurant somewhere near Parson's Green a long time ago.
I made the mistake of eating Quorn once - that's not an experience to repeat.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I'm fairly sure @AuroRaman has thicker skin than to be offended by that.
Although he is a vegan, so he may be wasting away
He does not need me coming in on his behalf. I was offended by the casual use of ‘Hitler analogies’ which I increasingly find distasteful.You can do better.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
Stalin?
So Boris has issued temp visas for those ‘undesirables’ the UK needs to do the crap jobs - driving trucks and cutting up dead chickens. Why did the government wait for months and months? Probably because they didn’t want to highlight some of the inherent drawbacks of Brexit.
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
I have to say, the Impossible Burgers are delicious, but I cannot eat them often. Quorn? I agree. No thanks. Ditto most vegan cheeses, though I did try Applewoods on a recommendation and it was great. @AuroRaman I am interested in the vegan mozzarella! My biggest struggle with plant alternatives ‘meat’ is that it invariably comes in at a pretty high carb rate; would be interested in more alternatives. I haven’t eaten red meat (cow, pig, sheep, four legs) for 5 years now and can genuinely say I do not miss it. Most of my protein comes from fish and some chicken; this is where my hypocrisy needs to be kicked to the curb as I need to dump chicken ASAP, especially given the reasons I disengaged from red meat/4 legged food (conditions animals live in, sentience, etc)…@AuroRaman, I am up for further education on viable protein-rich sources beyond tofu as I really want to go all the way here yet the carb factor is real for me.
If I ever eat four-legged food again it will be because I genuinely do not have an alternative and have been forced to take the life I am going to eat. The levels of disassociation from what sits in shops versus how it got there is a massive, massive problem for me personally. I have a couple of friends who live largely off-grid and nothing is wasted. Nothing. It is impressive but daunting, way beyond most of us here I’m sure.
Glad to see a conversation break out on this tip BTW…
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I mean, anyone who didn’t see this entire situation coming years ago has the vision of Ray Charles.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
And so to the sunlit uplands/this septic isle, facing the possibility of shortages of commodities as diverse as gas, petrol, carbon dioxide, beer, lorry drivers, chicken, hospitality staff, care workers, turkeys, and prime ministers who understand economics. The last one could turn out to be a particular bricker.
According to a Times column by colorectal stenographer James Forsyth, Boris Johnson is very keen for any emergency wage increases in sectors suffering labour shortages to be explicitly linked to Brexit, which – considering they will further hike inflation and deepen this winter’s cost-of-living crisis – tells you exactly how much Boris “fudge business” Johnson understands about economics. As Forsyth has it: “When a group of influential businessmen tried to bend his ear this month about labour shortages, Johnson simply asked if they had tried paying people more. He regarded that as the end of the conversation.”
But as the PM returns to face the music, let’s play out with an extract from that big speech for the world stage. “We still cling with part of our minds to the infantile belief that the world was made for our gratification and pleasure,” explained Johnson, “and we combine this narcissism with an assumption of our own immortality. We believe that someone else will clear up the mess we make, because that is what someone else has always done. We trash our habitats again and again with the inductive reasoning that we have got away with it so far, and therefore we will get away with it again.”
So there we are. Write what you know, I guess – and bid the warmest of welcomes to winter.
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Naturally from the guardian [emoji3]
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According to a Times column by colorectal stenographer James Forsyth, Boris Johnson is very keen for any emergency wage increases in sectors suffering labour shortages to be explicitly linked to Brexit, which – considering they will further hike inflation and deepen this winter’s cost-of-living crisis – tells you exactly how much Boris “fudge business” Johnson understands about economics. As Forsyth has it: “When a group of influential businessmen tried to bend his ear this month about labour shortages, Johnson simply asked if they had tried paying people more. He regarded that as the end of the conversation.”
But as the PM returns to face the music, let’s play out with an extract from that big speech for the world stage. “We still cling with part of our minds to the infantile belief that the world was made for our gratification and pleasure,” explained Johnson, “and we combine this narcissism with an assumption of our own immortality. We believe that someone else will clear up the mess we make, because that is what someone else has always done. We trash our habitats again and again with the inductive reasoning that we have got away with it so far, and therefore we will get away with it again.”
So there we are. Write what you know, I guess – and bid the warmest of welcomes to winter.
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Naturally from the guardian [emoji3]
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Too soon?
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Always.
Mikey10
Jimmy Neighbour
Marina Hyde. She can be annoying, but she was pretty much spot on in that piece today.
When Bolsonaro starts trolling you then you really are in trouble.
SpurMeUp
Les Howe
To be fair it was highly complex trying to model Brexit, not least because a lighter Norway-style setup was proposed by some of those advocating for leave (Farrage for example).
But those who took the time could see the inherent issues. A Norway style setup was obviously pointless; something that dawned on the Leave campaign later. So we ended up with the less defined setup where an abstract concept - sovereignty - drove the bus. Because no one could model it on an existing country, it was easier to jump in blindly, with the drawbacks less immediate and known. But here we are: with a ‘hard’ Brexit many even In leave didn’t think was opportune. Because all forms of Brexit were suboptimal it’s lack of clarity was its biggest draw.
We can’t trade freely in our own nation as an upshot - sending goods to and from Ireland has huge barriers. Trade with our neighbours has dropped and become bureaucratic. I was trying to buy an old record on Discogs this week, many EU sellers will not sell into the UK now. It’s easier to ship from the US than France. Madness. We can’t travel as freely with the need for visas and phone roaming, nor can we just up stick tomorrow and move to Spain. Then there are myriad small losses: no more gas and energy cooperation with our neighbours adding cost to UK taxpayers, the exchange programs for our students, the satellite program giving us enhanced GPS and global vision, and lack of access to our most local labour pool etc.
If only we could setup some kind of transnational arrangement to allow us to free ourselves from bureaucracy and facilitate greater cooperation [emoji23]
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Ok sorry, I'll restrict bad tastes jokes to the opinions you disagree with
glasgowspur
Luka Modric
The real mistake with the whole brexit process was jumping straight in after the vote.
Cameron should have went back to the eu and tried to renegotiate some of the issues that we weren't happy with. He had leverage then, he didn't before hand and got short shrift.
Imv most of the general public across Europe aren't happy at the direction eu are going in, the eu politicians don't really care as they are untouchable (look at farage ffs) and will drive through what they think is best and the plebs better just suck it up.
Cameron should have went back to the eu and tried to renegotiate some of the issues that we weren't happy with. He had leverage then, he didn't before hand and got short shrift.
Imv most of the general public across Europe aren't happy at the direction eu are going in, the eu politicians don't really care as they are untouchable (look at farage ffs) and will drive through what they think is best and the plebs better just suck it up.