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Nicola Berti
It's a BBC article, a mouthpiece for the government IMO. It probably is retaliatory to be honest however, I don't blame them.
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Exactly my point.
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Nicola Berti
Initially we didn't include them either, now we do.
It's just a huge willy waving contest between Boris and Macron IMO.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
I'm not sure that's accurate - the way I understood it, our policy was initially blanket (with the exception of Ireland, and special categories). The French then threw their toys around upon hearing that, and tried to negotiate an exemption (and if there's any truth that we initially agreed, that at least makes their behaviour slightly more understandable, if still highly petulant).
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Nicola Berti
Initially, a joint statement from the British and French governments said no quarantine measures would apply.
"No quarantine measures would apply to travellers coming from France at this stage; any measures on either side would be taken in a concerted and reciprocal manner," says the statement, which was published on the government's website on 10 May.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52682411
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
I don't think that contradicts what I said in any way - I think these discussions with the French came about following reports of a blanket UK policy.
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Nicola Berti
You said - our policy was initially blanket (with the exception of Ireland, and special categories) - this was clearly wrong as I have just shown you.
10th May Uk and France said no quarantines between the two countries, we changed our minds and then the French did too.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
Here's a report from the day before that, stating that Ireland would be the only country exempted. Which fits exactly with what I said previously.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52594023
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Nicola Berti
This is the UK Government website - 10th May...
The Prime Minister and President Macron spoke today.
They stressed the need for close bilateral, European and international cooperation in the fight against Covid-19.
The leaders spoke about the need to manage the risk of new transmissions arising from abroad, as the rate of coronavirus decreases domestically.
In this regard, the Prime Minister and the President agreed to work together in taking forward appropriate border measures. This cooperation is particularly necessary for the management of our common border.
No quarantine measures would apply to travellers coming from France at this stage; any measures on either side would be taken in a concerted and reciprocal manner. A working group between the two governments will be set up to ensure this consultation throughout the coming weeks.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/joint-statement-between-the-uk-and-france-10-may-2020
There was NO blanket approach, I can't make my initial point any clearer than I already have.
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
They spoke on 10th May. The last link I posted is dated 9th May, stating the UK policy would only exempt Ireland.
I really can't see the trouble you're having understanding how this fits to what I've said.
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Nicola Berti
You posted a BBC article, I posted the actual announcement from the UK government's website. There was NO blanket policy as you suggested. The BBC reported there would be a day before the official announcement. The BBC were wrong (oh horrors of horror, that's never happened before) and as a result you are wrong too.
As I said I can't make this any clearer, you're refusing to accept simple facts, so I will leave you to it and won't engage any further.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
I see that clam Cummings broke the lock down whilst infected to visit this parents. Oh did I say he was a clam?
Parklaner81
Steve Hodge
So your issue is with my use of the word 'policy'? More than happy to be corrected on that. Let's change it to 'proposal'.
I believe Macron called Boris in response to the UK's reported 'proposal'...and everything I've said previously.
Substance entirely unchanged.
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Nicola Berti
What's a clam?
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
A cnut.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
I have an Irish wife but i got to ask why Ireland is exempt. It makes no sense as a virus does not understand borders.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Here is hoping China crush those racist scum in Hong Kong. Really do not understand how people can even stand up for Hong Kong and the way some of those racists are behaving is absolutely disgusting.
Wanting to have two sets of rules in a country? Wanting some form of self governance while trading with others.
Fcuking right wing racists in Hong Kong.
Wanting to have two sets of rules in a country? Wanting some form of self governance while trading with others.
Fcuking right wing racists in Hong Kong.
That’s what I thought we didn’t include France now we have?
Annoying as I was supposed to be heading over there and Macron has retaliated though the govt has decided to act 2 months late. Has anyone seen Boris btw?