nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
And how do they get Brexit through without a proper majority?
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Politics, politics, politics (so long and thanks for all the fish)
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And how do they get Brexit through without a proper majority?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
With the Brady amendment and the DUP
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
So why didnt May do that then?
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Because she was weak and half-hearted
Craig_J
Mido
As a left wing socialist I have to say that I never thought I’d find myself approving so much of a Tory until Rory Stewart- and if he had fought an election against say Ed Miliband or some other Blairite is probably vote for him.
Surprised he was eliminated, even if it was a ballot of MPs. I would have thought the positive reaction he’s had would appeal to those choosing who to stick up for the ballot.
It really does say a lot about the process though. MPs given the ultimate power to choose a PM will put up two identical candidates. What a fantastic democracy we live in!
Surprised he was eliminated, even if it was a ballot of MPs. I would have thought the positive reaction he’s had would appeal to those choosing who to stick up for the ballot.
It really does say a lot about the process though. MPs given the ultimate power to choose a PM will put up two identical candidates. What a fantastic democracy we live in!
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
I suspect, as usual, things arent as simple and clear cut as you present.
Time will tell, but Id personally be amazed if there is no GE before 2022.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Choosing a party leader has never really been democratic. Until fairly recently the Tories decided by something called 'emergence' whereas Labour had an 'electoral college' system where the trade unions decided.
It should be internal business though. You wouldn't vote for the CEO of your employer would you? A run off between John the porter vs Rita the cleaner. You'd expect the board to decide that.
Also remember that the membership of both parties is pretty nuts. They are way more extreme than the MPs. So it's probably a good idea that MPs can weed out some of the worst options.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
Yep, more name calling from you. What a Kool Aid drinker, Gulp!!
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Intended far more as observation than insult.
You'll take it as you please, of course, same as everything else (whether or not that resembles the reality of the situation)
its not - brady amendment is as much pie in the sky as "technological solution" would still require a backstop or hard Brexit.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
As I said... a hypocrite. Semantics rule for the tool.
nayimfromthehalfwayline
Andy Thompson
Or, its exactly what I said. But you crack on, cant deny its entertaining (for now).
Ill pop you on ignore when it gets boring.
Gilzeantoscore
Justin Edinburgh
They're Greenpeace - everyone should get one free hit.
glasgowspur
Luka Modric
So it's OK for green peace to act how they want by entering private functions, property, ships etc, but lay a hand on them and its assault.
I look forward to the police and the courts now being over run with green peace activists turning themselves in for all their past crimes.
I look forward to the police and the courts now being over run with green peace activists turning themselves in for all their past crimes.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Frog marching her out of the room in the way he did was not a good look and rather unnecessary. Not sure it was his job to do that anyway. If you put your hand on anyone in the workplace these days, chances are you will get into trouble. There are better ways to deal with a situation.
His counterpoint to that (not that I believe it) is that she had illegally got past security and was heading towards the Chancellor. Without knowing if she was armed or not, it was the only sensible thing to do.
Robspur12
Nick Barmby
Where were the security? Tbh not really Mark Field's job to do their's for them.
But what a brave MP he was to risk all for the sake of a lame duck Chancellor..... etc....etc..... flimflam. You know that's how it will play out!
Massive fail for security BTW, but I know from experience that staff at that kind of event are very, very scared of upsetting guests. A dinner suit and an air of belonging are usually enough to get through most doors. The only times I've really seen it to be different are with US dignitaries and the Olympic Committee - that lot had more security and expenses than I've ever seen.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
She's also got something shiny in her left hand, that could at first glance potentially be a knife.
I'm cool with aggressive forms of protest (this, egg throwing etc.), but you have to be prepared to accept aggressive forms of self-defence. Self-preservation is the most instinctive of all human behaviours