parklane1
Tony Galvin
Never took you for a conspiracy lover. ( I do not believe in the belief that it will alter the way he refs, but as I say there will always be those who will)
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***OMT - TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Stoke City***
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Never took you for a conspiracy lover. ( I do not believe in the belief that it will alter the way he refs, but as I say there will always be those who will)
i think that because there's already a ruling in place whereby refs cannot officiate games that involve the club(s) they support because of a 'conflict of interest' then the powers that be are setting the precedent that refs aren't impartial when it comes to the fortune of the teams they support. If that rule wasn't already in place then there's no argument to be had - but it is and as such i think it's reasonable to point out that this game would be a conflict of interest to a Leicester supporter
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Fair enough but I still disagree, but as I said they will always be a excuse for some IF things go wrong.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I would argue that it can be a situation that he will actually go the opposite way in order to accentuate his impartiality - I I will when I've helped coach kids I've been harder and more demanding on my nephews for example so I can't be seem to show Favourtism
But ultimately we need to put ourselves in a position where the referee can't influence the game
Stoke are missing their no 1 keeper and their defence looks really all over the place at the moment
Then also don't appear to have got the balance between the good footy and the physical side which was their strength
Their a much improved side bug ultimately they will end up the best of the rest along with Southampton which for a club that has spent as much as they have is about right or possibly under achieving
But ultimately we need to put ourselves in a position where the referee can't influence the game
Stoke are missing their no 1 keeper and their defence looks really all over the place at the moment
Then also don't appear to have got the balance between the good footy and the physical side which was their strength
Their a much improved side bug ultimately they will end up the best of the rest along with Southampton which for a club that has spent as much as they have is about right or possibly under achieving
Denmark Spur
Michael Carrick
Kevin Friend replaced by Neil Swarbrick
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...tml?ITO=1490&ns_mchannel=rss&ns_campaign=1490
glasgowspur
Luka Modric
The only sensible solution. I'm sure Leicester wouldn't want anyone to be able to point at them winning the league and have cause to say they didn't deserve it.
Just as I wouldn't be happy winning it on a technicality re the drug or ffp cases.
Although football wise don't think they do as they, this, the drug cheat story an the ffp story are side shows and shouldn't detract from their victory.
Should they win it, nothing is settled yet.
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Correct decision I would say. No pressure on Friend, no comebacks
Glenda's Legs
Paul Walsh
Regardless of whether it would have made any difference in practice changing the ref is the right decision in order to preserve the integrity of both Kevin Friend and the competition.
Having said that, Swarbrick will probably now deny us a nailed on pen or something and we'll all be wishing we'd stuck with Friend!
Having said that, Swarbrick will probably now deny us a nailed on pen or something and we'll all be wishing we'd stuck with Friend!
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I do not think he would have been biased anyway but its for the best, at least IF things go wrong they will be no bleating about him being the Ref.
I wonder if Danny Rose will play given his history at the Britannia.
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472707/Danny-Rose-admits-he-lost-his-head-against-Stoke
It also reminds me what a nasty anti-football team we were under Sherwood. We have come a long way.
And whose career Adam will try and end this weekend? I remember Bale x 2, Modric, Parker, Paulinho, Vertonghen x 2 and there is probably more...
He is quite simply the most disgusting of all "footballers".
http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/472707/Danny-Rose-admits-he-lost-his-head-against-Stoke
It also reminds me what a nasty anti-football team we were under Sherwood. We have come a long way.
And whose career Adam will try and end this weekend? I remember Bale x 2, Modric, Parker, Paulinho, Vertonghen x 2 and there is probably more...
He is quite simply the most disgusting of all "footballers".
K.D.D.D.D.Soc
Ian Walker
I do have sympathy for refs. The pace of the game and dishonesty of the players make it very difficult and it probably doesn't help having your every decision analysed by a bunch of blowhards on tv, I would hate to have that pressure at work. I'm probably alone in think that ref are now less bias, I can remember the bad old days when Liverpool and Man Utd got everything they screamed for.
parklane1
Tony Galvin
I agree, its the hardest job in football and with all the pressure on refs to get every decision right ( which is basically impossible) they are on a loser before they even kick off. What makes it worse is that most fans have no idea how hard it is to ref a game and until they do try to do so they will never understand that.
Its seems that a lot of fans have to blame something/somebody if their team loses and the ref is a easy target for them.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Well done Levy.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
I think this 'history' at the Brittania makes it more likely he will definitely play. That was only one incident in many we've had there and Rose has only realy had one i believe.
His guts and never-say-die attitude will be much needed.
Also, whilst SherwOod was a crap manager (and bellend to boot) and we were a bit random and medicre BUT how were we "nasty" and "anti-football" under him?
When i read that i thought you were going to talk about Stoke under Pulis!
Agree re Adam; it'll be interesting if he plays because he has mostly been quite complimentary about us when he's been on Radio 5 Monday Night Club: though i think he was sure that Leicester have the league sown up some week back.....
Well yes. I suppose I mean by our standards it was nasty and anti-football.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
haha ok. How about I mean "by my perceptions and expectations it was nasty and anti-football". I didn't mean to speak for you or indeed others.
I particularly remember Mason getting Benteke sent off at Villa and feeling a sadness that we had resorted to winning games that way.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
I see what you mean re Mason....but that was under Poch..
I think under Sherwood we weren't even organised enough to be 'Nasty' most of the time. That might have at least been ok (for a very short while).
But thank GHod he isn't here anymore because we can be more 'nasty' if necessary (we don't get bullied or collapse like we did then) but we also play far better football going forward, the best probably since 1987 imo..
I see what you mean re Mason....but that was under Poch..
Oh dear. See what I mean about perceptions...but nevertheless I stand by my view.
Not being bullied and not collapsing is different from being nasty. I don't feel that we cheat. In fact I am impressed at what an honest side we are which I guess is surprising given Pochinetto's reputation as a player.
Incidentally, this season I feel Stoke have moved from trying to win by by being nastier than the opposition to trying to win by outplaying them. Despite the result, I quite enjoyed them at WHL this season.
Am I being too optimistic hoping for a great game of football rather than a battle?
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Agreed. I think it might be a good game of football, but i wouldn't be surprised if Stoke do try to make it a battle. It wont matter imo as i think we'll be able to deal with them if they try either method (esp if Arnautovic is still out).
Tell me more about Poch's rep as a player though; i hadn't heard of that...