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***OMT - Tottenham Hotspur vs. Saudi Sportswashing Machine***

Before we conceded we were the better side
They had that period and that was it
But they got 2 goals in that time

We played well early on but in the 2nd half when they needed to step up we offered nothing, didn't create anything, didn't press or even look like they were trying to get back into it.
 
Agree with much of this and have said that players who don't perform should be dropped not mollycoddled. Those who don't want to fight for their place should be out the door. Too many are too weak willed. Let's give youth a chance too.
I think we need a clean sweep of the old Poch players. As great as they have been even under conte they need replacing. That includes Hugo and Dier from the starting line up
 
Zero accountability, self-reflection or actual desire to act like players at a real big club. Just a lot of pretending, for too many of this lot.

This. 100%.

I am a bit worried by Conti's attitude too. He doesn't seem to see the losers in the same light we do.
 
Or before
Neither did their keeper.

Sure we lost because literally just gave them two goals but we weren't exactly creating any chances of our own.

That's my concern even more so than the stupidness at the back. Lloris is going to kick us into trouble, he's done it before and he will do it again. Dier isn't a good defender so we play 3 at the back to compensate. I'm meh on that, the la k of any real threat is a bit more concerning. Without Kulu we are drifting into Nuno territory. Few goals, very few attacks and not looking threatening at all.

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I think we need a clean sweep of the old Poch players. As great as they have been even under conte they need replacing. That includes Hugo and Dier from the starting line up

Without Dier we'd be at sea. He's the only lynch-pin there. Is he the most commanding and reliable of CBs you've ever seen? No. But he's definitely one of the best we have. And has been playing well. He's a corner stone of Conte's side.
 
Neither did their keeper.

Sure we lost because literally just gave them two goals but we weren't exactly creating any chances of our own.

That's my concern even more so than the stupidness at the back. Lloris is going to kick us into trouble, he's done it before and he will do it again. Dier isn't a good defender so we play 3 at the back to compensate. I'm meh on that, the la k of any real threat is a bit more concerning. Without Kulu we are drifting into Nuno territory. Few goals, very few attacks and not looking threatening at all.

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Son had his chance before where he slid it h see rather than spanked it at Pope. He also had 4 other shots before hand too
 
Without Dier we'd be at sea. He's the only lynch-pin there. Is he the most commanding and reliable of CBs you've ever seen? No. But he's definitely one of the best we have. And has been playing well. He's a corner stone of Conte's side.
I like Dier
But we have no idea how he operates behind the scenes or how he talks. Pool didn’t win anything until the first 11 changed by 10 players
 
Lots of misses from us today. Missing Hojgbjerg, Kulu, Richarlison, Romero. All key players for us. Then we missed a hat-full of respectable chances. Son times 3 in the first 10 mins or so. Kane close etc.

There were positives. The way Lenglet joined attacks - something we've been crying out for from our CBs. Sessengon well in the game. Not delivering yet, but better that at least he's doing the rest of his job well. There is too much pressure on him. Just needs to work the ball more in the final thrid, not try to force a cross always. Focus on a pass instead. Or getting to the byline and pulling the ball back.
 
Without Dier we'd be at sea. He's the only lynch-pin there. Is he the most commanding and reliable of CBs you've ever seen? No. But he's definitely one of the best we have. And has been playing well. He's a corner stone of Conte's side.

He doesn't make stacks of mistakes but his overall level isn't high enough for where we want to be, his distribution is extremely poor and he's not comfortable on the ball which is strange given his upbringing. Compare his long balls to say Tobys - night and day. I think it's Romero plus 2 new cb's needed. We'll likely only get one though.
 
Neither did their keeper.

Sure we lost because literally just gave them two goals but we weren't exactly creating any chances of our own.

That's my concern even more so than the stupidness at the back. Lloris is going to kick us into trouble, he's done it before and he will do it again. Dier isn't a good defender so we play 3 at the back to compensate. I'm meh on that, the la k of any real threat is a bit more concerning. Without Kulu we are drifting into Nuno territory. Few goals, very few attacks and not looking threatening at all.

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We don't play 3 at the back because of Dier, we play it because it's Contes preferred system and no other reason.
 
We don't play 3 at the back because of Dier, we play it because it's Contes preferred system and no other reason.
I worded it incorrectly. I know it's his go to system. It's just that even if he wanted to change it we don't have the CBs to play a back 4. Just like I recall saying early on this season that I don't actually think we are that good defensively. We rely on packing the box and making it difficult to get clear shots on goal but it's a numbers thing. Individually we are rather poor at the back.

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I worded it incorrectly. I know it's his go to system. It's just that even if he wanted to change it we don't have the CBs to play a back 4. Just like I recall saying early on this season that I don't actually think we are that good defensively. We rely on packing the box and making it difficult to get clear shots on goal but it's a numbers thing. Individually we are rather poor at the back.

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But as discussed before he doesn’t play a back 4
 
I worded it incorrectly. I know it's his go to system. It's just that even if he wanted to change it we don't have the CBs to play a back 4. Just like I recall saying early on this season that I don't actually think we are that good defensively. We rely on packing the box and making it difficult to get clear shots on goal but it's a numbers thing. Individually we are rather poor at the back.

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We don't really have a left back either, Davies can play there, but it's not his best position.
 
we lost because literally just gave them two goals but we weren't exactly creating any chances of our own.

We created enough chances to have scored another. Some days you don't get the rub of the green, and I thought this was one of those. Bags of effort and some decent team play, but without top class wingbacks, and given our injuries, it is much harder to score....
 
Just watched their second goal for the first time and Sessegnon really has to foul Almiron. Weak and poor football intelligence.

And it's a foul on Lloris the more I see it. For the second it's a poor kick but again naive from us as their players still have thigs to do.

The idea our players can't get out of tricky situations does not bode well for when things get really tough, no wonder we went rabbit in headlights when we faced quality in United in the week
 
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