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OMT ***Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Dildo Club***

scaramanga said:
We started the match with too many first team players and he only made it worse.

He makes the same mistake in the UEFA quite often too.
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I wonder if we qualify before the last game against APOEL whether he will play the reserves, what with December being a busy month and all.
 
StephenH said:
Doesn’t matter who plays - we will never win ANYTHING with those type performances in our DNA.
Forget Liverpool, Real Madrid and Manchester United!
We are weak mentally!
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Yet we've shown against those very teams you mention that we are strong mentally when it matters.

I doubt the manager and the players care as little about the league cup as I do, but if they care much more then they're fools.
 
fudging disgusted. Didn’t care about the competition particularly but that’s not acceptable at all.

I sincerely hope the players and manager are embarrassed by that and I really hope Poch lets them know how unacceptable that sort of collapse is. There is developing a winning attitude and there’s believing your own hype. We need to make sure we take fudge all for granted between now and the end of the season.
 
Has nothing to do whether we put our first team or back up players into this game.
Even as a back up pro-footballer, you couldn't start getting relax and think about maybe the game is done , with only 2 goals leading and still 45 mins to go.
And i am really disappointed it happened again from a Mauricio Pochettino's team.

These guys particularly a few of them need some hard words from Poch.
 
DeanoAustin said:
fudging disgusted. Didn’t care about the competition particularly but that’s not acceptable at all.

I sincerely hope the players and manager are embarrassed by that and I really hope Poch lets them know how unacceptable that sort of collapse is. There is developing a winning attitude and there’s believing your own hype. We need to make sure we take fudge all for granted between now and the end of the season.
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Well we're out of the league cup and we're not in the UEFA this season.

So unless we finish 3rd in our CL group I'd say you're right (by default ;))
 
Danishfurniturelover said:
I wonder if we qualify before the last game against APOEL whether he will play the reserves, what with December being a busy month and all.
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In that situation, the game will still likely matter given seeding for the last 16 but even if it didn't, Poch wouldn't play the reserves - he's shown its not in his nature
 
DubaiSpur said:
Well, that was embarrassing. It's another cup thrown away, and I'll never be okay with that - *ever*. It's one of my biggest disagreements with Poch, and always will be - a man who has won absolutely nothing cannot afford to be choosy, and neither can a club that has won two league cups in 25 years.

But that's secondary to the immediate situation - it's something I've been angry about for four years, and it won't change. What *was* especially embarassing was that we just spinelessly gave up - surrendered to a bunch of pub cloggers with pashun.

It's important in a way that we're reminded of what we are, under the surface - we can suppress it with brilliant league campaigns and astonishing CL exploits, but this is what will always lurk under our successful exterior. Vulnerability. And self-destruction - always present. Same old Tottenham, always let you down, etcetera, etcetera. Today was a good demonstration of what happens when we let our guard down, when our efforts falter for just a moment - we are the Spurs of old, limply losing to everyone with a bit of spine and effort.

We cannot let our guard down like this ever again. If you want to throw competitions, Poch, that's your prerogative - you've earned it, despite my disagreement. But this is the risk - the Spurs you built will fade away, and the *true* Tottenham will return. It's always f*cking there. And although we can suppress it for entire seasons, across multiple competitions - somewhere, somehow, this sort of thing will happen the instant our effort wavers. And it will f*cking return.
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Which teams doesn't have that in them though? The United team of 96 or whenever it was, losing 4-1 away to us on New Year's day. Scum losing to Birmingham in that league cup final that didn't matter brick to them a few years ago. Chelski title winning team losing 4-2 at home to Bradford in the cup. City, title winning side or thereabouts, getting smashed 6-2 or whatever it was at home to Liverpool, Liverpool losing out to Wolves last year, Scum crapping their pants against just about anyone any year - especially in the cups where the big clubs don't give a fudge. There are plenty of these results that accumulate every year, and it will obviously continue to happen. Strong teams' reserve sides up against smaller teams super fired up because it's their big chance to actually beat this team. I wouldn't put too much "sexy" in to it.
 
scaramanga said:
Yet we've shown against those very teams you mention that we are strong mentally when it matters.

I doubt the manager and the players care as little about the league cup as I do, but if they care much more then they're fools.
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That was West Ham’s attitude in the first half!
It a has nothing to do with the league cup, it’s about pride! Not making yourselves look like mugs!
Dele and Son were show boating and ended up making fools of the whole team by losing to this second rate team.
 
Raziel said:
He didn't throw it away, the players did as they got lazy/complacent at 2-0 up.
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Which is on him. He said what he said pre-match about not giving a single fudge about this competition. That filters through. He sat in his seat, motionless, as West Ham put three past us and Bilic orchestrated his team from the sidelines. That's on him. And, in the end, he is the manager - our losses are on him, that's just how it works. Our successes too, but he has to own these losses - so it doesn't make sense to blame the players over him, imo.
 
To peddle the notion that we 'threw' this game or lost it because we don't care is laughable.

We lost it because we believed we'd finished the job after the first half. Completely unacceptable performance second half. I hope Poch gonadS them after the game and on the training pitch in the days ahead.

I also hope it's helped him weed out some of the more mentally weak players.

I don't care what the competition or circumstance, throwing away a 2-0 advantage against West Ham is not on, ever. I'm fudging livid.
 
milo said:
It's not thinking we're too big for them, it is about priorities. We have to prioritise the league, finishing in the top four is worth more to the club than winning either of the domestic cups. The big teams do not take the cups seriously until the semi-finals, Ferguson had a far stronger squads than us and that made it easier for him to get there whilst putting out weakened sides.
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We can make about 7 changes from this team to the team that starts v Utd. And this team was still strong and good enough to take a 2-0 lead. We didn't lose because of priorities or whatever, we lost this game because our players took the win for granted and stopped playing in the 2nd half -- West Ham took advantage. That's not good enough from the players.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
We had 3/4 first team players

Hell of they want to hang on that then let em
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There were more than 4 first teamers on there tonight. If it was a team of kids we could excuse it, but it was far from that.

Dele, Son, Sissoko, Davies, Rose, Toby, Dier, Trippier...
 
the dza said:
We can make about 7 changes from this team to the team that starts v Utd. And this team was still strong and good enough to take a 2-0 lead. We didn't lose because of priorities or whatever, we lost this game because our players took the win for granted and stopped playing in the 2nd half -- West Ham took advantage. That's not good enough from the players.
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Yet we will still need to play 4 that haven't had a decent rest. Then on Weds they will likely have to play again.

It's ridiculous that even one player likely to play against either Utd or Real was out there.
 
Daisuk said:
Which teams doesn't have that in them though? The United team of 96 or whenever it was, losing 4-1 away to us on New Year's day. Scum losing to Birmingham in that league cup final that didn't matter brick to them a few years ago. Chelski title winning team losing 4-2 at home to Bradford in the cup. City, title winning side or thereabouts, getting smashed 6-2 or whatever it was at home to Liverpool, Liverpool losing out to Wolves last year, Scum crapping their pants against just about anyone any year - especially in the cups where the big clubs don't give a fudge. There are plenty of these results that accumulate every year, and it will obviously continue to happen. Strong teams' reserve sides up against smaller teams super fired up because it's their big chance to actually beat this team. I wouldn't put too much "sexy" in to it.
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It is unique with us because we do that more than most. We have two league cups in 25 years and act like we're Billy Big B*llocks, up there with the class of '92 and the other great sides of the game. We are only two years removed from *regularly* f*cking up like this and act like it's ancient history. We were known, throughout football, as the 'Lads, it's Tottenham' side for a goddamn reason - but that's forgotten in the rush to dismiss results like this as a blip and our trophy drought as an irrelevance.

Football remembers winners. We have forgotten that. And all the teams you mentioned have won a lot more than we have, a lot more recently than we have. Given those circumstances, we are unique in believing that we are comparable to other sides in terms of the frequency of our f*ck-ups - we aren't, because we're *remembered* for them, while other teams aren't.
 
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