Legohamster
Ian Walker
He seems to think it was the start of things, so I’ll take his word on it.
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OMT ***Tottenham Hotspur v West Ham Dildo Club***
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He seems to think it was the start of things, so I’ll take his word on it.
Hopefully he'll start picking some young players in these games (Edwards, Bennetts, KWP etc) - players who have something to prove. I don't get why people like Eriksen was involved at all tonight - he should have been at home with his feet up
Robbo
Paul Walsh
This. And while Poch clearly doesn't prioritize the league cup, I'm certain he won't be happy with that second half collapse. They went for it and wanted it more, we didn't show up.
It's the first cup, not a causal event.
Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
I wouldn't mind us winning the league cup at all, would love it in fact, but I think it's fair to say we need to sacrifice some of these competitions in order to focus on the ones where we really want to compete - we're playing ManU away in the early game on Saturday, we needed to rest a few players. It's a sign of ambition at least. We're going for the CL and the PL, aiming high ... echoes of glory, and all that ...
Disappointing to see our reserves not giving a fudge, but ... yeah, they'd also rather play in the PL and/or CL, I reckon.
DubaiSpur
Ian Walker
Well, that was embarrassing. It's another cup thrown away, and I'll never be okay with that - *ever*. It's one of my biggest disagreements with Poch, and always will be - a man who has won absolutely nothing cannot afford to be choosy, and neither can a club that has won two league cups in 25 years.
But that's secondary to the immediate situation - it's something I've been angry about for four years, and it won't change. What *was* especially embarassing was that we just spinelessly gave up - surrendered to a bunch of pub cloggers with pashun.
It's important in a way that we're reminded of what we are, under the surface - we can suppress it with brilliant league campaigns and astonishing CL exploits, but this is what will always lurk under our successful exterior. Vulnerability. And self-destruction - always present. Same old Tottenham, always let you down, etcetera, etcetera. Today was a good demonstration of what happens when we let our guard down, when our efforts falter for just a moment - we are the Spurs of old, limply losing to everyone with a bit of spine and effort.
We cannot let our guard down like this ever again. If you want to throw competitions, Poch, that's your prerogative - you've earned it, despite my disagreement. But this is the risk - the Spurs you built will fade away, and the *true* Tottenham will return. It's always f*cking there. And although we can suppress it for entire seasons, across multiple competitions - somewhere, somehow, this sort of thing will happen the instant our effort wavers. And it will f*cking return.
But that's secondary to the immediate situation - it's something I've been angry about for four years, and it won't change. What *was* especially embarassing was that we just spinelessly gave up - surrendered to a bunch of pub cloggers with pashun.
It's important in a way that we're reminded of what we are, under the surface - we can suppress it with brilliant league campaigns and astonishing CL exploits, but this is what will always lurk under our successful exterior. Vulnerability. And self-destruction - always present. Same old Tottenham, always let you down, etcetera, etcetera. Today was a good demonstration of what happens when we let our guard down, when our efforts falter for just a moment - we are the Spurs of old, limply losing to everyone with a bit of spine and effort.
We cannot let our guard down like this ever again. If you want to throw competitions, Poch, that's your prerogative - you've earned it, despite my disagreement. But this is the risk - the Spurs you built will fade away, and the *true* Tottenham will return. It's always f*cking there. And although we can suppress it for entire seasons, across multiple competitions - somewhere, somehow, this sort of thing will happen the instant our effort wavers. And it will f*cking return.
I agree with those saying that this would be a great opportunity for some younger players to get a chance to shine, especially if this is a cup "we don't care much about". They feared us in the first but outbattled us in the second, which I don't think would have happened with our second string. I think I remember Wenger playing the reserves in the final one year, because it was those who got them there. It would have felt better to go out due to ability rather than complacency in any case.
Not particulary bothered about this one with the exciting games coming up, but it never feels good to lose a cup game regardless. This was our best shot at a trophy, and I'm sure every single one of our players would rather have a "don't care-cup" medal than no medal at all.
Not particulary bothered about this one with the exciting games coming up, but it never feels good to lose a cup game regardless. This was our best shot at a trophy, and I'm sure every single one of our players would rather have a "don't care-cup" medal than no medal at all.
Fell asleep at the wheel, 1st half was training ground exercise.
Can see an angry Poch on this one.
Only upside is it might give the team a kick up the ass before week-end game.
milo
Jack L. Jones
It's not thinking we're too big for them, it is about priorities. We have to prioritise the league, finishing in the top four is worth more to the club than winning either of the domestic cups. The big teams do not take the cups seriously until the semi-finals, Ferguson had a far stronger squads than us and that made it easier for him to get there whilst putting out weakened sides.
I bet they'd rather be fit for a match against Real Madrid than have a league cup medal.
He didn't throw it away, the players did as they got lazy/complacent at 2-0 up.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
I never mocked them. Even if they did not win league titles they were always ahead of us, we need to hold onto our best players, we do not that by winning league titls or being in the top 4. Dele and Kane will not say at the end of the season, oh spurs finished 5th and are in the europa league but we won the league cup so i will stay. It does not happen like that.
Well, Toby isn't overpaid, but as a result of playing tonight, he needs to spend tomorrow resting up and then just has Friday to prepare for (and travel to) the midday kick-off vs Man U on Saturday. Poch's two weakness are use of subs and not rotating more in League Cup and UEFA Cup games
King of Norway
Gudni Bergsson
In my time as a Spurs fan we have picked up two trophies in 25 years. So it doesn't really matteriof one opportunity goes begging. We might win something within the next 12 years.
A team of Alderweireld,Davies,Rose,Trippier,Dier,Dele,Son is NOT a team of reserves. Stop trying to play it down because it's West Ham, it was a shocking display.....
StephenH
David Ginola
Doesn’t matter who plays - we will never win ANYTHING with those type performances in our DNA.
Forget Liverpool, Real Madrid and Manchester United!
We are weak mentally!
That's not how numbers work.