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Next Spurs Manager v.2
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
I dont necessarily agree or disagree, just stating what looks very much on the cards matey…frankly, I think a lot of the candidates are less than ideal...
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
Steff, if we are in fact trying for Martinez to the point where it's getting known in the media do you think we're "going in cold" by approaching Everton and waiting for their permission to talk to Martinez or do you think we would have some reason to think that Martinez would accept?
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I would have to believe there's been some signs that he's interested...again, I still cannot see it happening, but...I have to say, I'd be pretty happy personally. The bit that never made sense to me was how a manager of his relative integrity would work with Levy? He's always had chairman who support him implicitly; this would be next-level pressure. He could well be ready though...
Lily White
Clive Wilson
What about the director of football thing Steff? If I remember rightly Martinez tuned down Liverpool because he wanted more control over transfers.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
Indeed...and as I have heard it for a while now, Baldini is going nowhere. So 'perhaps' this will come down to how many players he thinks he will need versus what he would walk into versus his relationship with Baldini. I'm interested to know, for example, where Baldini fits into a De Boer situation. There are a lot of variables which don't add up for me...sometimes I wonder if DL fully thinks through his deepest wishes to be honest. To be fair, I simply don't think a manager like Martinez would work with a chairman like Levy, but above and beyond everything (and the silent factor this summer) is that Lewis wants CL and he will get a stadium built for 17/18 as he wants to 'maximize' his investment...and who knows what influence that could have on the managerial issue!
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
I think Baldini and de Boer would be quite natural - FDB works under Overmars at Ajax. Like most managers outside of the British old school, he's never worked without a DoF.
Why is Uncle Joe so keen for the stadium to happen quickly? Does he see it as a sort of legacy thing? He'll be at least 80yo by the time it is up. Surely that is time to retire, rather than worry about growing investments?
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
That's my thinking too. Of course by now it's all speculative based on rumours, but would Levy approach Everton directly? Not so sure.
The only thing I could imagine is Martinez seeing Everton as a bit much of a muchness compared to Wigan. Step up for sure, but still losing players after a year, still tons of new players every summer and dependent on good transfer business again and again, still no actual resources. Perhaps he could see our potential as bigger and perhaps he would like another step up? Again, just speculating?
I think the reason Levy went for Baldini as a technical director instead of as a DoF wasn't just a name thing. The relative power in the transfer market can still be adjusted by Levy and no big club would give Martinez loads of resources and freedom to do as he pleased in the transfer market anyway.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
I'd be disappointed if it was Pulis. He has Palace doing pretty well but ultimately it's still quite a direct style of football which wouldn't sit easy with the natives. It will take longer than a few months at the helm of Palace to wash away the years of sin at Stoke. No thanks for me.
Martinez I would love. A total gent and someone who ALL the fans could get behind. However I don't think it is in his character to jump ship unless he is pushed off the plank by Kenwright. In fact if he did walk out on Everton he would go down in my estimation somewhat. Number 2 on my list of realistic targets but FDB is still my favourite.
Martinez I would love. A total gent and someone who ALL the fans could get behind. However I don't think it is in his character to jump ship unless he is pushed off the plank by Kenwright. In fact if he did walk out on Everton he would go down in my estimation somewhat. Number 2 on my list of realistic targets but FDB is still my favourite.
I would be very disappointed in Levy if he lost interest in DeBoer because of what he said? Ok he shouldn't of announced that but still...mind you,I've been more forgiving of some of Sherwood's comments than some:lol: Would prefer him to Poch, I'm not convinced of him but have no valid reason as to why. Martinez would be great but a pipe dream nonetheless, I still think the best candidate is Benitez and it seems he could be more attainable than I first believed....
Cochise
Steve Carr
We unsettle De Boer >> Cruyff targets Martinez as replacement >> Martinez becomes unsettled at Everton >> We swoop in for Martinez.
I still can't see him leaving them after just 1 year in charge, you just don't see that happening. For all we know these are fake rumours being used to cover up who we are really talking to (maybe someone outside of Poch and FDB).
I still can't see him leaving them after just 1 year in charge, you just don't see that happening. For all we know these are fake rumours being used to cover up who we are really talking to (maybe someone outside of Poch and FDB).
Interesting press comments from De Boer coming out, this from Gazetta dello Sport in Italy:
Frank de Boer has spoken to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport this week about various things including his style of football, young talents at Ajax and, of course, the rumours that he's likely to be Tottenham Hotpsur's next manager.
The Premier League club last week denied that they'd contacted Ajax to ask about De Boer becoming their manager, but the man himself has again contradicted that and said Spurs were in touch.
The Dutchman also explained that he thinks Tottenham are currently happy with Tim Sherwood and were just sounding him out as a possibility for the future, which may be lip service to please Sherwood after he lashed out at the De Boer stories last week.
De Boer told Gazzetta "They talked informally with Ajax about my contract. I think they are quite happy with their manager (Tim Sherwood), but it is normal that they get information about a possible successor, as have Liverpool in the past. Liverpool had four candidates and asked me if I was interested. That time I said I wanted to stay at Ajax."I'm very happy here, but if a club came with an interesting perspective and a good team, I would consider the proposal. I want to understand what contribution I could give."
Tottenham probably won't be too pleased that De Boer has insinuated their statement last week was incorrect, but few believed Spurs hadn't made contact with anyone about a new manager.
I think words have been had between him and the club about the delicacy of the situation and he's been coming out backtracking in a couple of recent interviews.
Frank de Boer has spoken to Italian newspaper Gazzetta dello Sport this week about various things including his style of football, young talents at Ajax and, of course, the rumours that he's likely to be Tottenham Hotpsur's next manager.
The Premier League club last week denied that they'd contacted Ajax to ask about De Boer becoming their manager, but the man himself has again contradicted that and said Spurs were in touch.
The Dutchman also explained that he thinks Tottenham are currently happy with Tim Sherwood and were just sounding him out as a possibility for the future, which may be lip service to please Sherwood after he lashed out at the De Boer stories last week.
De Boer told Gazzetta "They talked informally with Ajax about my contract. I think they are quite happy with their manager (Tim Sherwood), but it is normal that they get information about a possible successor, as have Liverpool in the past. Liverpool had four candidates and asked me if I was interested. That time I said I wanted to stay at Ajax."I'm very happy here, but if a club came with an interesting perspective and a good team, I would consider the proposal. I want to understand what contribution I could give."
Tottenham probably won't be too pleased that De Boer has insinuated their statement last week was incorrect, but few believed Spurs hadn't made contact with anyone about a new manager.
I think words have been had between him and the club about the delicacy of the situation and he's been coming out backtracking in a couple of recent interviews.
DHSF
Les Ferdinand
I would blow you if we got Martinez. Was always my first choice.
metalgear
Luka Modric
i guess its clear we had a discussion, maybe an enquiry at the very least. all this extra talk makes me feel that FDB's just putting himself in the shop window.
did he? (not on the Pulis bandwagon btw), his interview post the Pool match was very non committal .. lots in there about conversations with management and need for backing
Armchair Expert
Vedran Corluka
Sorry, but that is total nonsense. I feel compelled to smash this one line statement of pure conjecture to pieces with some facts (not that anyone will be interested
).It just annoys me when people pass off nonsensical opinion as fact.
Firstly, having a company in the name of a football club is nothing new in Austria. Current examples:
Red Bull Salzburg
SK Puntigamer (beer) Sturm Graz
SCR Cashpoint (finances) Altach
Trenkwalder Mödling
SV Josko Ried
SV Scholz Grödig
SC Magna Wiener Neustadt
Indeed, Salzburg's greates success (UEFA final vs INTER Milan) came under the name Casino Salzburg. So clubs having a company name in their names is 100% common place and non-controversial. I think only the Vienna clubs - SK Rapid & Austria Wien have been immune to this practice.
The second point I have to make is that Red Bull has MASSIVE connections to Salzburg, and the casual comparisons with Coke and London are nonsense.
Didi Mateschitz (Red Bull founder/owner) is Salzburg born and bred. He has contributed millions and millions to the public in Salzburg. Two quick examples: culturally he has set up "Hangar 7" an free admittance art gallery near the airport for the promotion off local and national Austrian talent, including paintings and sculpture. Secondly, he has bought swathes of land that were earmarked for industrial development, some spots of real beauty around the city, and made them open to the public for hiking, climbing and leisure activities. He is immensely popular with locals and synonamous with the City. So the coca-cola comparison is a complete non starter.
What he did do is impose new club colours. He changed the traditional purple to red and white. Bizarrely he attempted to erase the clubs history too, but this move was blocked by the Austrian FA. Many hardcore supporters stuck with the club, but the changes were too much for many.
The break away supporters formed SV Austria Salzburg, who play in traditional purple: http://www.austria-salzburg.at/
The club are currently top of the Regionalla West and have opened up a lead over second placed Wattens SC (Tirol club). They have a good chance to get into the second tier of Austrian football, but could come up against fallen traditional power club LASK Linz, managed by Karl Daxbacher (who had good successwith Austria Wien before dropping down the leagues to rescue a fallen giant).
I hope I've made it clear why I object to the post: if people are going to criticise things, do it on the basis of evidence and real complaints, not speculation and conjecture that appears to other posters as fact.
Sources: I'm employed by an Austrian Bundesliga football club.