Next Spurs Manager v.2

[billyiddo]

i don't think it really matters as the chances of us not appointing a manager this summer are close to zero - but as you hint at a year is a long time in football and managers can quickly go from hero to zero and vice versa

 

[braineclipse]

So, who would be out there/available next year? As things stand, Rafa's contract would be up then, and he may want to stay for the CL next season, after which Napoli may struggle to qualify again. If Soton have a rough year (which seems possible given that some players will likely move) would Poch still be high on our list then? Anybody else jump out that may be available next year rather than this? Would there be better options next year rather than this?

I see no reason to think we will have better options next year than this year.

Of the top English clubs it seems that only ourselves and United will be in the manager market this summer. A lot of international managers are coming to the end of their contracts because of the World Cup and the kind of managers we will be after will most likely pick us over those vacant international jobs I think. Bayern and Dortmund seem safe. Ancelotti seems safe. PSG will probably be in the market, as will Barca, but I don't necessarily see much overlap with our targets and theirs at this point. Conte is safe, Milan will be looking, but again little overlap I think.

Next season could be a lot worse. After this season I think only Rodgers is safe for another two years almost regardless of results. Mourinho cracks appearing, Wenger will leave eventually and his contract is up next summer I think. Never know with United. Pep might be sick of Bayern or the other way around. Rare for Real to go more than 2 seasons without sacking a manager etc.

Specific predictions like "next season X will be available because of" seem way too ambitious unless you have some exceptional magic 8 ball floating around.

 

[Modric THFC]

Looks like Baldini favourite Luis Enrique is going to be managing Barcelona next season.
Of course everyone on here ruled him out as not a good enough candidate for the Spurs job around the time AVB was sacked.

 

[Rossi22]

I doubt many here would want Tata Martino in charge of Spurs next season but Barca still hired him. Man Utd hired Moyes, he's not good enough for Spurs either. Also, Luis Enrique to Barcelona is hardly a regular appointment, I'm sure Spurs fans would be more receptive to David Ginola being our next manager than most other clubs would.

 

[Modric THFC]

I doubt many here would want Tata Martino in charge of Spurs next season but Barca still hired him. Man Utd hired Moyes, he's not good enough for Spurs either. Also, Luis Enrique to Barcelona is hardly a regular appointment, I'm sure Spurs fans would be more receptive to David Ginola being our next manager than most other clubs would.

Why's it irregular.
He spend 3 years managing their B team.
Then went off to try to implement the Barcelona system at Roma.
He had a cracking season with Celta Vigo who are currently in 8th.

That's exactly how managers should be appointed.

 

[Gutter Boy]

Looks like Baldini favourite Luis Enrique is going to be managing Barcelona next season.
Of course everyone on here ruled him out as not a good enough candidate for the Spurs job around the time AVB was sacked.

With him there and Simone at Athletico, Baldini has a few good contacts at the top of La Liga.

Could be useful for getting a few scraps off their tables.

 

[braineclipse]

Why's it irregular.
He spend 3 years managing their B team.
Then went off to try to implement the Barcelona system at Roma.
He had a cracking season with Celta Vigo who are currently in 8th.

That's exactly how managers should be appointed.

No, but him being right for them doesn't make him right for us.

I also think that's concordant with the points you make in this post?

 

[Rossi22]

Why's it irregular.
He spend 3 years managing their B team.
Then went off to try to implement the Barcelona system at Roma.
He had a cracking season with Celta Vigo who are currently in 8th.

That's exactly how managers should be appointed.

If Luis Enrique wasn't a Barca legend, would they be headhunting him for next manager? I think not. Would any of the other biggest clubs in the world have Luis Enrique anywhere near top of their manager hitlist? Again, no. So it's not a regular hire and has no relevance to Spurs.

 

[thfcsteff]

I think it's a straight shot between three, De Boer, Pochettino and Roberto Martinez. I don't think we will be able to get the latter, even though he's wanted, due to money/loyalty, etc, so have pretty much discounted it despite whispers. Of the three, Pochettino looks the most likely IMO…I sadly thought Rafa was in the frame too as he is the perfect Levy manager in a way. I cannot see it being anything other than one of the first three though personally(which in reality is probably the first two)...

 

[Jordinho]

Martinez is not a realistic candidate at this time at all IMO.

 

[milo]

I think it's a straight shot between three, De Boer, Pochettino and Roberto Martinez. I don't think we will be able to get the latter, even though he's wanted, due to money/loyalty, etc, so have pretty much discounted it despite whispers. Of the three, Pochettino looks the most likely IMO…I sadly thought Rafa was in the frame too as he is the perfect Levy manager in a way. I cannot see it being anything other than one of the first three though personally(which in reality is probably the first two)...

I'd have De Boer down as the favourite at the moment after his comments this week

 

[Gutter Boy]

I think it's a straight shot between three, De Boer, Pochettino and Roberto Martinez. I don't think we will be able to get the latter, even though he's wanted, due to money/loyalty, etc, so have pretty much discounted it despite whispers. Of the three, Pochettino looks the most likely IMO…I sadly thought Rafa was in the frame too as he is the perfect Levy manager in a way. I cannot see it being anything other than one of the first three though personally(which in reality is probably the first two)...

I don't think Martinez is in any way a realistic candidate

Levy passed over him 2 years ago, he displayed impressive loyalty at Wigan and is only one year into his Everton project, he's been based in the NW for most of the last 20 years, and Everton finished ahead of us this season and give their managers time.

I just don't see it as a starter compared to the other 3 candidates.

 

[Rossi22]

I think it's a straight shot between three, De Boer, Pochettino and Roberto Martinez. I don't think we will be able to get the latter, even though he's wanted, due to money/loyalty, etc, so have pretty much discounted it despite whispers. Of the three, Pochettino looks the most likely IMO…I sadly thought Rafa was in the frame too as he is the perfect Levy manager in a way. I cannot see it being anything other than one of the first three though personally(which in reality is probably the first two)...

Has something happened with Rafa then? Why is he no longer an option?

 

[Modric THFC]

If Luis Enrique wasn't a Barca legend, would they be headhunting him for next manager? I think not. Would any of the other biggest clubs in the world have Luis Enrique anywhere near top of their manager hitlist? Again, no. So it's not a regular hire and has no relevance to Spurs.

Its nothing to do with him being a former player. Its that they're a club with a system and he knows the system having spent 3 years as their B team manager.

He's the right person for the job.

Meanwhile we are just looking at flavour of the month and high profile candidates rather than the right person for the job.

I mean two of the major candidates on here, pochettino and benitez, have never managed a team that plays decent football. How are they suitable for the spurs job. W
e might as well have avb back.

 

[Chachaboom]

Gus Poyet or Mauricio Pochetinno?
Roberto Martinez or Brendan Rodgers?
Lucien Favre or Murat Yakin?
FDB or Rafa Benitez?

Tim Sherwood or Dave Bassett

 

[Rossi22]

Its nothing to do with him being a former player. Its that they're a club with a system and he knows the system having spent 3 years as their B team manager.

He's the right person for the job.

Meanwhile we are just looking at flavour of the month and high profile candidates rather than the right person for the job.

I mean two of the major candidates on here, pochettino and benitez, have never managed a team that plays decent football. How are they suitable for the spurs job. W
e might as well have avb back.

So I assume you want us to keep Sherwood then? He's been with us six years and knows the system afterall.

 

[Gutter Boy]

So I assume you want us to keep Sherwood then? He's been with us six years and knows the system afterall.

Problem is, Timmeh is a product of our 90s rotten culture of failure and dark ages thinking.

Enrique on the other hand was schooled in the traditions of Cruyff, van Gaal and Guardiola.

It's why FBD (van Gaal, Cruyff, Ajax, Barca) and Pochettino (Biesla) are candidates for our job - because we want to change the culture of the club by bringing in a leader with a progressive and successful approach.

 

[Modric THFC]

So I assume you want us to keep Sherwood then? He's been with us six years and knows the system afterall.

We dont have a system

I think I'll have to remove the ridiculous sherwood and baldini avatar as people are getting the wrong impression

 

[braineclipse]

Its nothing to do with him being a former player. Its that they're a club with a system and he knows the system having spent 3 years as their B team manager.

He's the right person for the job.

Meanwhile we are just looking at flavour of the month and high profile candidates rather than the right person for the job.

I mean two of the major candidates on here, pochettino and benitez, have never managed a team that plays decent football. How are they suitable for the spurs job. W
e might as well have avb back.

Bit harsh to compare us to Barca on this, they will have a lot of options that we will not.

You don't think Southampton can even be described as playing decent football? I have to say I think you're in a minority here. Pep Guardiola on his Espanyol side by the way: "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football." I have to admit I never watched his Espanyol side, but I will go ahead and take that Guardiola quote above your claim that he's never managed a team that plays decent football unless you care to expand on your statement a bit...

For me, looking at what Steff said above and 3 of the candidates being Poch, FdB and Martinez with Martinez probably being out of our reach. To me that makes a lot of sense. Young or young-ish manager looking to implement systems of play that could suit us. FdB obviously inspired by the classical Ajax and Barca approaches, Poch inspired by Bielsa.

I haven't seen many proper rumours about Benitez, more forum talk than anything. A different type of manager to those 3 above, but a proven manager at a very high level with a lot of experience. If he's being considered as the option for a slightly different approach I can see that too.

I really don't see what you're upset about at this point. Most of what's being talked about is just forum talk. Most of the candidates we're being linked to make a lot of sense to me.

 

[Cochise]

Bit harsh to compare us to Barca on this, they will have a lot of options that we will not.

You don't think Southampton can even be described as playing decent football? I have to say I think you're in a minority here. Pep Guardiola on his Espanyol side by the way: "There are teams that wait for you and teams that look for you: Espanyol look for you. I feel very close to their style of football." I have to admit I never watched his Espanyol side, but I will go ahead and take that Guardiola quote above your claim that he's never managed a team that plays decent football unless you care to expand on your statement a bit...

For me, looking at what Steff said above and 3 of the candidates being Poch, FdB and Martinez with Martinez probably being out of our reach. To me that makes a lot of sense. Young or young-ish manager looking to implement systems of play that could suit us. FdB obviously inspired by the classical Ajax and Barca approaches, Poch inspired by Bielsa.

I haven't seen many proper rumours about Benitez, more forum talk than anything. A different type of manager to those 3 above, but a proven manager at a very high level with a lot of experience. If he's being considered as the option for a slightly different approach I can see that too.

I really don't see what you're upset about at this point. Most of what's being talked about is just forum talk. Most of the candidates we're being linked to make a lot of sense to me.

The Bentiez talk has been fed by Carragher and Thompson who have both said that he'd jump at the chance to coach us. Whether or not they are making noises in the press on his behalf is a question worth asking, but I think the rest of the talk has been forum members working out why that is (family still over here, not enjoying Italy perhaps). Personally I think with the success he's had at Napoli (CL football and cup win) will be enough to keep him there, I just don't think we have enough to lure him in.