Next Spurs Manager v.2

[DTA]

and thats why people on here make me laugh when they want anyone else but Tim. Its not about anyone else... its about the right man. I seriously have had enough of chopping and changing thats why if it aint TS then id have FDB but no one else really tantalises me.

But why fdb he is another guy who has done **** in this league, won with the best club with the biggest budget in his league,

Nah Rafa makes much more sense to me.

 

[Hootnow]

and thats why people on here make me laugh when they want anyone else but Tim. Its not about anyone else... its about the right man. I seriously have had enough of chopping and changing thats why if it aint TS then id have FDB but no one else really tantalises me.

For me, it is about the right man.

If we can't find the right man, then it is about a qualified man.

I have to say, I haven't been on board with the Sherwood abuse on this board. I was willing to give him a chance. That chance is now gone, for his tactics, his starting line ups, the way he carries himself in the media.

And I'm sorry but there isn't a sudden drop off in managerial quality or suitability for Spurs from LVG or FDB to Sherwood. There are literally hundreds of managers we can hire after those 2. It is not an either/ or situation.

 

[DHSF]

But why fdb he is another guy who has done **** in this league, won with the best club with the biggest budget in his league,

Nah Rafa makes much more sense to me.

Im only speaking on the basis of a hunch here haha. I havent seen much of Ajax (actually nothing at all) but just a hunch - perhaps I liked him as a player.

 

[DHSF]

For me, it is about the right man.

If we can't find the right man, then it is about a qualified man.

I have to say, I haven't been on board with the Sherwood abuse on this board. I was willing to give him a chance. That chance is now gone, for his tactics, his starting line ups, the way he carries himself in the media.

And I'm sorry but there isn't a sudden drop off in managerial quality or suitability for Spurs from LVG or FDB to Sherwood. There are literally hundreds of managers we can hire after those 2. It is not an either/ or situation.

I guess speaking from my own view point, no one else tantalises me as much as FDB. Not sure why I am not keen on anyone else out there but Benny Hill certainly doesnt, perhaps Poch but even he is just one of those who has done it for a season. Laudrup is a definite no no he has done nothing. If Simeone wins the double, would he leave? doubt it.

Im trying to think of others out there.

 

[Modric THFC]

AVB was the manager who's won trophies at most of the clubs he's been at?

I supported AVB till the end but AVB won trophies at 1 club, where he had the best team and most money in the league. He was one of the young, next best things, rather than a steady winner like Benitez.

He's one end of the spectrum, the Martinez, Rodgers, Pochettino spectrum, young managers with a system and hired by clubs as part of a long term plan.

Benitez, LVG etc are the other end.

AVB's long term plan was to get as rich as possible by jumping from club to club then retire and race cars.
He has no desire to be at any club long term.

 

[Modric THFC]

But why fdb he is another guy who has done **** in this league, won with the best club with the biggest budget in his league,

Nah Rafa makes much more sense to me.

But not with the football he plays.
Also Levy wants to concentrate on buying young players and bringing through our youth.
Benitez is not one to trust young players .

 

[jurgen lineker]

I assume because people are sick of going for the next best thing with regards to managers and fixating on style of play over substance and trophies and starting to consider a manager who has won trophies at most of the clubs he has been at.

Yeah, so like i said, destination trumping journey. Thankfully the majority still prefer the latter.

I have no envy whatsoever for teams that achieve trophies in a negative manner, i'd find no satisfaction in winning a trophy in such a way. I have no interest in winning trophies just for the sake of winning trophies. Football is an entertainment and it should remain so. If others see it differently, which many do, then fair enough but that's the way i see it.

Van Gaal would have been ideal, big shame that's not happening.

 

[Hootnow]

AVB's long term plan was to get as rich as possible by jumping from club to club then retire and race cars.
He has no desire to be at any club long term.

I am uninterested in what those managers actually are, I am talking about in what category they are seen by people.

AVB is certainly not in the same boat as Benitez, who, whatever all his other faults, wins trophies very consistently.

 

[Hootnow]

I guess speaking from my own view point, no one else tantalises me as much as FDB. Not sure why I am not keen on anyone else out there but Benny Hill certainly doesnt, perhaps Poch but even he is just one of those who has done it for a season. Laudrup is a definite no no he has done nothing. If Simeone wins the double, would he leave? doubt it.

Im trying to think of others out there.

But these are all the most obvious candidates. Either managers we've been exposed to in the media, managers we've faced, or managers currently 3 wins away from achieving perhaps the most unlikely double I can remember.

There are managers all over the place, in so many different leagues, who we could look at. I'm not saying I know who these managers are, I no longer have the time to watch too much football outside of Spurs and select teams I have had a soft spot for this season ie Athletico. But they're there.

Many of them would be preferable to Sherwood, who has shown himself to be increasingly clueless and abrasive imo.

 

[DHSF]

But these are all the most obvious candidates. Either managers we've been exposed to in the media, managers we've faced, or managers currently 3 wins away from achieving perhaps the most unlikely double I can remember.

There are managers all over the place, in so many different leagues, who we could look at. I'm not saying I know who these managers are, I no longer have the time to watch too much football outside of Spurs and select teams I have had a soft spot for this season ie Athletico. But they're there.

Many of them would be preferable to Sherwood, who has shown himself to be increasingly clueless and abrasive imo.

But how many would be great long term.

 

[Hotshot-Tottenham]

If he would come and we are adament that we must change our manager, we would be verging on insane to go for anyone else. Jamie's right Rafa is a proven winner in multiple leagues, but most importantly this league, he has consistently demonstrated the ability to tactically outsmart some of the top coaches in Europe.

If he would come he is as clear a first choice as you could want.

Get Rafa in for ****s sake. Sick of us being such a naive outfit. A proper winner, a proper manager who can go toe-to-toe with any coach around.

This is true, but Rafa did go off the deep end toward the end of his reign at Pool.

Me made odd player decisions, got rattled by Fergie and the media and generally didn't deal with the pressure IMO. Of course, his stint at Chelsea was admirable under the circumstances.

I just wonder whether he loses sight of the big picture at times and fixates on some slightly sideline issues.

No doubt though, proven winner and I wouldn't be against him if he came.

 

[Rossi22]

Would you guys really be happy for Benny ****in Hill? I wouldnt. Urgh.

He would never be the guy to turn around this club ie in terms of youth and structure. You may argue that Baldini is there for that but its called working in tandem and Benny would not be that guy.

I want FDB and I am not interested in anyone else WHO IS AVAILABLE.

Can you explain why you'd prefer de Boer to Poch?

 

[Hootnow]

Yeah, so like i said, destination trumping journey. Thankfully the majority still prefer the latter.

I have no envy whatsoever for teams that achieve trophies in a negative manner, i'd find no satisfaction in winning a trophy in such a way. I have no interest in winning trophies just for the sake of winning trophies. Football is an entertainment and it should remain so. If others see it differently, which many do, then fair enough but that's the way i see it.

Van Gaal would have been ideal, big shame that's not happening.

I think this is a slightly arrogant attitude, with all due respect, from a club who haven't won many trophies in their recent history.

There are very very few teams who consistently win trophies playing poor football. And I've met very few fans of clubs who win trophies regularly who complain about the manner in which they've won that FA cup or league title. And I imagine it wouldn't be too different if it was happening to Spurs fans either.

I agree about LVG.

 

[Armchair Expert]

If I could chose one, I'd go for Benitez.

One of the upsides to come out of all the craap of the past 18 months is that I think all Spurs fans are sick of perpetual transition, and if a manager can come in who seems like a decent appointment I can imagine all being willing to get on board for the long haul.

The one thing he needs to do is show steady signs of improvement and give the feeling we are heading in the right direction.

 

[Hootnow]

But how many would be great long term.

I'm not sure. Any managerial appointment is a risk tbh (and I don't think we should be looking to bring in a manager just cos he'll be long term, Man Utd have just suffered from that).

From what I've seen in the past 5 months though, I think most would be better than Sherwood long term.

 

[Rossi22]

If I could chose one, I'd go for Benitez.

One of the upsides to come out of all the craap of the past 18 months is that I think all Spurs fans are sick of perpetual transition, and if a manager can come in who seems like a decent appointment I can imagine all being willing to get on board for the long haul.

The one thing he needs to do is show steady signs of improvement and give the feeling we are heading in the right direction.

I agree, I'm not sure I can take another project manager. Let's just get Benitez in and see what happens.

 

[Modric THFC]

Can you explain why you'd prefer de Boer to Poch?

DeBoer doesnt play the exact same high pressing 4231 that AVB failed with here. Pochettino does.

 

[markysimmo]

Sack Dim and Ferdinand tonight, Freund & Ledders to take charge next sunday with FDB on the pitch announced at HT, at least let the fans go home happy and with optimism for the summer

 

[Rossi22]

DeBoer doesnt play the exact same high pressing 4231 that AVB failed with here. Pochettino does.

Even if that's true, I don't see how it's particularly relevant. 4231 is a stock formation and high pressing is hardly unique, different managers will coach differently and pick different players. Just because one manager can't implement it correctly doesn't mean another won't be able to either.

 

[thfcsteff]

Sack Dim and Ferdinand tonight, Freund & Ledders to take charge next sunday with FDB on the pitch announced at HT, at least let the fans go home happy and with optimism for the summer

I believe if they sack him now they'd have to fork over more than if he just ****s off at the end of the season...