Next Spurs manager mega-thread

[Rorschach]

Mr Maccioni’s daughter, Marietta, told the Mirror: “It was lovely to see him again after so long away.

“He came in with his wife, sister-in-law and her husband. They had a leisurely lunch and enjoyed themselves.

“Jose was speaking to my father for quite a while, just about family and how the business was doing.

“He said he was house-hunting in the area and was looking for a big place for the whole family.

“A lot of the staff are Chelsea fans, including me, and they were asking him if he was coming back to the club.

“Unfortunately he said he wasn’t. We’re all disappointed as he was a great manager for us. I wish he was coming back.

“He didn’t tell us anything else about his plans, and we didn’t pry as he’s a good customer and a friend.”

The Chelsea snub will fuel speculation that a move to Spurs or Arsenal is a strong possibility but he will want to pick his next move carefully.

 

[totman]

Of course it could happen. Not sure why people laugh....we are a club aiming to set ourselves into Europes elite again, chase titles, and get serious in the CL. The stadium is coming, and are financially sound, and run brilliantly. People talk about this "Failing aiming high..." stuff, but then think we are too small for Mourhino??

Who should we try to achieve our goals with then....Coyle? Moyes? Lambert?

 

[Sandman]

On a not unrelated note.

IF Chelsea sacked AVB and hired in Jose and Harry left for England.

Would you hire AVB???

The style of play that Porto used whilst he was in charge was more akin to our attacking style. I personally would have wanted him last year if Harry had not been our manager. If though he is having a rough time with Chelsea he is overseeing a change in perssonel and style of play and they are still joint with the Champions league places.

The other candidates do not wet my appetite at all. I dont want Coyle ( too crap ) Moyes ( too defensive ) or Lamber ( too inexperienced and could be a one hit wonder ). Out of the young managers the only one i like is Brendan rogers as he has tactics he sticks to and has produced with no expenditure.

 

[parklane1]

If we got Jose we could win the Prem that will never happen under Redknapp, so yes i would like to see him at the Lane.

 

[ArcspacE]

On a not unrelated note.

IF Chelsea sacked AVB and hired in Jose and Harry left for England.

Would you hire AVB???

The style of play that Porto used whilst he was in charge was more akin to our attacking style. I personally would have wanted him last year if Harry had not been our manager. If though he is having a rough time with Chelsea he is overseeing a change in perssonel and style of play and they are still joint with the Champions league places.

The other candidates do not wet my appetite at all. I dont want Coyle ( too crap ) Moyes ( too defensive ) or Lamber ( too inexperienced and could be a one hit wonder ). Out of the young managers the only one i like is Brendan rogers as he has tactics he sticks to and has produced with no expenditure.

I would take AVB in a heartbeat over any other PL dinosaur or clogger

 

[Rorschach]

Assuming the whole house-hunting things is actually true would that not imply that Jose has already agreed to manage a London club? He'd hardly be buying property on the off chance. Taking it a step further, then if Spurs happen to be that club then Harry has already agreed with Levy that he is going.

 

[Sandman]

Assuming the whole house-hunting things is actually true would that not imply that Jose has already agreed to manage a London club? He'd hardly be buying property on the off chance. Taking it a step further, then if Spurs happen to be that club then Harry has already agreed with Levy that he is going.

Whilst I think he is Definitely wanting to come back to London putting 2+2 together like that is not always the case. He loves London life, its a good time to buy property in London for investment. He says he wants to come back to London but none of that means it will be this summer.

We have some chance in this, but i think its 50% chance. What we have going for us is that we are in the Premier league and in London. But we dont have the kind of transfer kitty he normally works with, but saying that he has said he wants to come back no matter what, and is up for a project. But AVB calls Chelea a project and they spend money, so who knows how they think they wording translate to what they actually mean.

I just cannot see Scum getting rid of Wenger. So its down to if Chelski get rid of AVB, and as stated if they do that I would take him in a heartbeat.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

I would take AVB in a heartbeat over any other PL dinosaur or clogger

Sorry guys, (ArcspacE & Sandman) you would reject Lambert on the basis that he is inexperienced and potentially a one hit wonder, but would be interested in AVB who is inexperienced, and has so far proven to be a one hit wonder?:-k doesn't really make much sense to me!

Yeah I get that AVB has had to deal with some difficult players at Chelscum, and is trying to change the team and how they play, but he hasn't made a very good job of it has he? And while they are obviously crying out for a creative presence at CM, not only did he not attempt to sign someone of that ilk in the January window, but he also sent McCeahran (or however you spell his name) out on loan.

He clearly is not a very good man manager as he has alienated large swathes of the core of his squad. Given that Harry is such a good man manager is this not a talent we need in his succesor (admittedly among many other talents)?

There are a number of other concerns around AVB but I'll just end by saying what about the fact that premier league footballers often socialise between at the same clubs (and there are probably whether we like it or not a number of our players who are mates with their players, such as Adebayor and Drogba.) Given that one of the contributing factors to AVB's sacking would be player power, how are our players going to feel about a manager that some of their friends and associates have so little time for?

 

[Lily White]

Getting Jose in would definately soften the blow of Harry leaving but I find it hard to believe that he would come here. Would Levy pay the sort of wage that he is use to?, would Jose want a strict transfer budget and wage structure to work with? It would be nice to think that he is prepared to take a pay cut and work on a more limited budget, it would certainly be a decent challenge for him.

 

[ArcspacE]

Crabb C Nesbitt

He has won more trophies in one season with Porto than Redknapp has in his entire existence and he's nearly double his age

Won't even go into Coyle and Moyes

Rogers has been living off those compliments from Mourinho for quite some time now. Let's see if he can keep Swansea in the Prem for at least 3 consectuive season before passing on judgment. Hull had a better season than them under Brown in their first PL outing and still fcuked out monumentally. Should we consider Brown too?

The Chelsea job is a poisioned chalice, imv and the media is often half to blame for all the disasters which they seem desperate to pre-empty even before the new manager has signed his contract. All you read in the fcuking news is AVB and the 'pressure'. Considering the massive egos of ageing qnut players, rebuilding an ENTIRE system both in terms of mentality and actual staff/player and a owner like RA - I'd say he's held his own quite well.

 

[EJG]

AVB gives me the impression that he's the managerial equivalent of someone who uses big words to try and sound clever, but doesn't actually know what the big words mean. I'm unconvinced by him. Plus if he was Spurs manager that constant crouching down at the side of the pitch he does would get right on my tits.

 

[totman]

AVB has done nothing to deserve the Spurs job. Not saying he couldnt do a good job with another club, but "winning stuff with Porto the other year" doesnt really do it for me.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

Crabb C Nesbitt

He has won more trophies in one season with Porto than Redknapp has in his entire existence and he's nearly double his age

Won't even go into Coyle and Moyes

Rogers has been living off those compliments from Mourinho for quite some time now. Let's see if he can keep Swansea in the Prem for at least 3 consectuive season before passing on judgment. Hull had a better season than them under Brown in their first PL outing and still fcuked out monumentally. Should we consider Brown too?

The Chelsea job is a poisioned chalice, imv and the media is often half to blame for all the disasters which they seem desperate to pre-empty even before the new manager has signed his contract. All you read in the fcuking news is AVB and the 'pressure'. Considering the massive egos of ageing qnut players, rebuilding an ENTIRE system both in terms of mentality and actual staff/player and a owner like RA - I'd say he's held his own quite well.

Dude I think if Redknapp had managed Porto he would have won quite a few trophies too!

I agree the Chelbrick job is a poisoned chalice, but surely the actions of a wise/good manager would have been to take the factors that you mention into account and change things one step at a time, not all at once. I just think he is too compromised in terms of the respect of players in the EPL at this time, and will need to rebuild his reputation elsewhere if he is to be a success. Like I said, don't discount the fact that a number of the players at Chelbrick who are causing trouble (like Drogba) will have mates in our squad.

 

[totman]

I agree the Chelbrick job is a poisoned chalice, but surely the actions of a wise/good manager would have been to take the factors that you mention into account and change things one step at a time, not all at once.

Good point. He also knew what he was getting himself in for, but I guess his ego, and the money told him it wouldnt be a problem. Naive...a common word when talking about AVB in general.

Chelsea is a strange club alright, but those same players have backed, and more importantly, respected, alot of managers and staff there too. How he's lost a dressing room in half season is a big cause for concern for me.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

Good point. He also knew what he was getting himself in for, but I guess his ego, and the money told him it wouldnt be a problem. Naive...a common word when talking about AVB in general.

Chelsea is a strange club alright, but those same players have backed, and more importantly, respected, alot of managers and staff there too. How he's lost a dressing room in half season is a big cause for concern for me.

That is also a good point, what is it specifically about AVB that has caused the players to rebel? I suspect is is because (on a simplistic level at least) the majority of the previous post Mourinho managers listened to the players and played to their strengths whereas perhaps AVB was too insistent on them doing things his way and changing things round to quickly?

 

[Sandman]

Dude I think if Redknapp had managed Porto he would have won quite a few trophies too!

I know what you are saying as the Portuguese league is a bit like the Scottish league in that only 2 teams ever win it!!! BUT they are lying second this season quite a few points of Benfica, are out of their domestic Cup and did badly in the Champions league and got knocked out with ease from the Europa by City. Compare that to last season when they won everything and did not lose a game and you can see he is a difference maker.

He has had only one big season of success, BUT he has worked at big clubs, is used to players with ego and has some tactical nouse. I admire Rogers as he has his tactics, sticks to them and they are working. Lambert for me is just any other manager having a good spell. I want to see someone come in who has a plan, and tactical outlook on how to use the players and is not scared to stick to them.

 

[Crab.C.Nesbitt]

I know what you are saying as the Portuguese league is a bit like the Scottish league in that only 2 teams ever win it!!! BUT they are lying second this season quite a few points of Benfica, are out of their domestic Cup and did badly in the Champions league and got knocked out with ease from the Europa by City. Compare that to last season when they won everything and did not lose a game and you can see he is a difference maker.

He has had only one big season of success, BUT he has worked at big clubs, is used to players with ego and has some tactical nouse. I admire Rogers as he has his tactics, sticks to them and they are working. Lambert for me is just any other manager having a good spell. I want to see someone come in who has a plan, and tactical outlook on how to use the players and is not scared to stick to them.

But haven't they also sold a lot of their key players from last season such as Falco and Lucho gonzalez?

 

[indospurs]

Unfortunately the scum have a new stadium, money despite what we think, but the conundrum is of course, wenger. Wenger would probably move up as a director, but could the special one work with le voyeur ? That, I seriously doubt.

Emirates Marketing Project have the money, but they are in Manchester, that's a lot of travelling, almost Arryesque. This is a strong possibility.

Ourselves, well will Levy work with Mourinho, breaking our current wage structure? Splashing cash whilst sorting out the stadium ? Go to Benny's hairdresser for a new coiffure? I'd be gobsmacked if it happened, but ain't holding my breath.

Manyoo - SAF (aka red nose) has been reported as saying he'll quit in a couple of years, probably.

Another london club - QPR? Have they got the dosh? Wetspam - well how else are they going to fill a 90,000 seater stadium??

I think probably Emirates Marketing Project, before defecting to yanited when sir red nose stops. If his contract would allow it!

 

[Sandman]

But haven't they also sold a lot of their key players from last season such as Falco and Lucho gonzalez?

Yes they Sold Falcao but held onto Hulk and Moutinhio but Even with that they have been pretty average this season. Its Easy to say AVB did well because its an easy league, but he also won the Europa which is a decent standard in the latter stages.

 

[ArcspacE]

I agree the Chelbrick job is a poisoned chalice, but surely the actions of a wise/good manager would have been to take the factors that you mention into account and change things one step at a time, not all at once.

Isn't that what Ancelotti tried to do? And before him Grant and Scolari? Little bit of this, little bit of that?