You may be right about it being a minority. But boy were they vociferous and abusive. It was horrible to read.
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Mauricio Pochettino - Sacked
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You may be right about it being a minority. But boy were they vociferous and abusive. It was horrible to read.
Fair comments. I just don't get why so many Spurs supporters need to be so rude to our players/mangers. T'interweb is some kind of weird and wonderful parallel universe that relates to life, but not quite as we know it.
thfcsteff
George Hunt
I think you're far closer to the truth than we might want to admit there mate...
braineclipse
Willie Hall
Hope this is true.
As I've said before I think there's something fundamentally a bit wrong about the attitude at the club. I think some conflict and friction could do us good and I hope anyone not 100% up for the job will be shipped out.
Not sure if it's getting enough attention, but Poch is relying quite heavily on younger and settling players. The only properly experienced player currently performing for us week in week out is Lloris. I think we'll benefit long term from the game time given to players like Rose, Dier, Bentaleb, Mason, Capoue, Eriksen, Lamela, Chadli etc.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Plus a large number of posts on football forums are posted to get a reaction.
Bullet
Andy Thompson
The most vehement and proud anti-Sherwood-ite owns and runs this website, so it is no wonder the minority were so vocal.
Personally I did not like Sherwood's lack of class, nor his media gurning, but I tried to stifle my feelings whilst results went our way... but as soon as he made some decisions I didn't agree with it was too easy to see him as a geezer-dun-well. He really was the Anti-Boas.
But it just wasn't on here. didn't spend much time on here during that time. Probably just as well
It was sooo many sites, and I didn't like it all.
We even have a smiley in his honour:
:tim:
Just like with Harry though, his personality traits completely eclipse whatever he achieves as a manager.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
It's not like he's a rapist :lol:
So if he won the Champions League that wouldn't eclipse it?
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
What's wrong with that? It's amazing the way he charmed some fans on this board to the point where they backed him endlessley no matter how poor the results got towards the end.
There's more chance of me winning the lottery and I haven't even got a ticket.
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
:tim::tim::tim::tim:Surely that smiley is in honour of Ade:tim::tim::tim::tim:
superfaisty
Nico Claesen
If the rumours are true about dl backing poch, gd the sooner some of the players wake up to the new regime the better.
It's taking a while for Pochs method to show themselves and funnily enough I'd have thought we'd be more solid defensively before developing our attacking play.
However on current form our forwards look better than our defence but then I guess part of that is down to the Fwds not being as aggressive in assisting the defence as they should be. Really hoping to see stambouli in the team soon, think his tenacious defensiveness is something Capoue lacks. Mason looks good at the moment but the whole midfield needs to work harder Eriksen and Chadli and Lamela included. I actually think Lamela needs a rest up in the league, Kane should come in on current form.
It's taking a while for Pochs method to show themselves and funnily enough I'd have thought we'd be more solid defensively before developing our attacking play.
However on current form our forwards look better than our defence but then I guess part of that is down to the Fwds not being as aggressive in assisting the defence as they should be. Really hoping to see stambouli in the team soon, think his tenacious defensiveness is something Capoue lacks. Mason looks good at the moment but the whole midfield needs to work harder Eriksen and Chadli and Lamela included. I actually think Lamela needs a rest up in the league, Kane should come in on current form.
glorygloryeze
Jack Jull
Fantastic summing up imo.
I was prejudiced against his appointment for coaching/managerial reasons, though I had heard he was an a-hole and a snake previously.
Sadly, he showed himself to be an a-hole and generally was another who wanted to pass the buck when things didn't go well and always blame others.
He was a coward as well (see his sitting in the stands at Liverpool and saying "he didn't think he could do anything to change things on the touchline, whilst he constantly questioned how much balls the players themselves had).
I suspect it's his conduct (not the results) that is stopping him from getting further jobs.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Results dictate everything, it's why Mourinho gets so many top jobs despite being a complete ****. I suspect chairmen are more worried about Sherwood's pedigree than his gob, people forget chairmen aren't football forum posters who analyse and scrutinise every minutiae of every comment a manager makes and attach more importance to it than results on the pitch.
I didn't want want us to keep Sherwood, but it more to do with his lack of experience than his tv interviews.
I didn't want want us to keep Sherwood, but it more to do with his lack of experience than his tv interviews.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
Maybe a better chance, but I believe Levy is a results driven man more than anything, there may have been other factors at play for all of the managers he has canned, but AVB, Redknapp, Ramos, Jol and Sherwood were all sacked because of results ulitamely.
I've come to this discussion late. Hadn't realised that it had become the "Farewell from Tottenham Hotspur, Tim Sherwood" thread.
But since that seems to be the topic at hand, my two cents worth:
When Sherwood was first appointed, I was fully prepared to support him - despite reservations about his lack of experience (and qualifications).
And, in the league at least, he did a decent job in terms of points gained. But contrary to how some claim to have enjoyed the football his team played, I hated it. We scored more goals than we had done under AVB, certainly. But it wasn't good football. It didn't excite me. It was chaotic; headless; haphazard; and entirely lacking in harmony, with no balance between defence and attack. There was no discernible pattern of play; no evident route map to future progress as a team and a club. It was no more enjoyable to watch, as far as I was concerned, than the yawn fest that AVB too often served up - though for different reasons. If anything, it felt to me that we had regressed even further.
But maybe I could have stomached another season to see if Sherwood could grow as a manager, and his team with him, if it hadn't been for his off field persona. I could forgive the occasional gob****e outburst. But when it became routine (and clear that Sherwood revelled in the attention), I couldn't bear it any longer. The constant public ****ging off of players; the repeated shifting of any blame away from himself; the breathtaking arrogance......it genuinely made my skin crawl to see and hear him interviewed.
So come May, I couldn't wait to see him out. Whatever the (too small sample size to be useful) stats say, we're a much healthier and happier club now that he is.
But since that seems to be the topic at hand, my two cents worth:
When Sherwood was first appointed, I was fully prepared to support him - despite reservations about his lack of experience (and qualifications).
And, in the league at least, he did a decent job in terms of points gained. But contrary to how some claim to have enjoyed the football his team played, I hated it. We scored more goals than we had done under AVB, certainly. But it wasn't good football. It didn't excite me. It was chaotic; headless; haphazard; and entirely lacking in harmony, with no balance between defence and attack. There was no discernible pattern of play; no evident route map to future progress as a team and a club. It was no more enjoyable to watch, as far as I was concerned, than the yawn fest that AVB too often served up - though for different reasons. If anything, it felt to me that we had regressed even further.
But maybe I could have stomached another season to see if Sherwood could grow as a manager, and his team with him, if it hadn't been for his off field persona. I could forgive the occasional gob****e outburst. But when it became routine (and clear that Sherwood revelled in the attention), I couldn't bear it any longer. The constant public ****ging off of players; the repeated shifting of any blame away from himself; the breathtaking arrogance......it genuinely made my skin crawl to see and hear him interviewed.
So come May, I couldn't wait to see him out. Whatever the (too small sample size to be useful) stats say, we're a much healthier and happier club now that he is.
demotw
Nicola Berti
As we are talking about other managers - This was interesting:
QPR forward Adel Taarabt has hit back at manager Harry Redknapp over claims that he is overweight and unfit to play.
Redknapp launched an attack on the Morocco international after QPR's 3-2 defeat to Liverpool on Sunday, claiming Taarabt was "not fit to play football".
"I can't keep protecting people who don't want to run about and train, who are about three stone overweight,” added Redknapp.
But Taarabt has deepened the rift with his manager by claiming that Redknapp does not even regularly take training sessions, and then posing shirtless in a photoshoot in order to deny the suggestion he is out of shape.
"I am a professional - this is not about retaliation, this is about protecting my reputation," Taarabt said in the Daily Mail.
"I played in that reserve game for 90 minutes and if he didn't think I was running he could have taken me off. Maybe I didn't perform like I could because it was a reserve team game and I was protecting myself.
"My job is to create, bring goals to the team. Maybe he expects me to make more tackles. I am not this type of player. I can only get fitness playing Premier League. You can train six or seven hours, but you won't be fit."
Taarabt has made three appearances for the club this season after finishing the last campaign on loan at AC Milan, and has no qualms about criticising the way in which the under-pressure Redknapp is managing the team.
"The training sessions aren't the same standard as Milan, or what I would expect under another manager," he said.
"They are not as intense, the players aren't as motivated. It is the same as we used to do at Tottenham years ago. When we played West Ham he told the players "you're not fit, you're not this, you're not that".
"I said 'but the problem is we don't have any plan in the game, we don't know how to press as a team’. It's not about just running around, you need to play with your brain.
"After West Ham he said all of the team is not fit. After Liverpool, because the performance was so good, he said everything was perfect. What, in one week, he changed the fitness? Impossible."
QPR forward Adel Taarabt has hit back at manager Harry Redknapp over claims that he is overweight and unfit to play.
Redknapp launched an attack on the Morocco international after QPR's 3-2 defeat to Liverpool on Sunday, claiming Taarabt was "not fit to play football".
"I can't keep protecting people who don't want to run about and train, who are about three stone overweight,” added Redknapp.
But Taarabt has deepened the rift with his manager by claiming that Redknapp does not even regularly take training sessions, and then posing shirtless in a photoshoot in order to deny the suggestion he is out of shape.
"I am a professional - this is not about retaliation, this is about protecting my reputation," Taarabt said in the Daily Mail.
"I played in that reserve game for 90 minutes and if he didn't think I was running he could have taken me off. Maybe I didn't perform like I could because it was a reserve team game and I was protecting myself.
"My job is to create, bring goals to the team. Maybe he expects me to make more tackles. I am not this type of player. I can only get fitness playing Premier League. You can train six or seven hours, but you won't be fit."
Taarabt has made three appearances for the club this season after finishing the last campaign on loan at AC Milan, and has no qualms about criticising the way in which the under-pressure Redknapp is managing the team.
"The training sessions aren't the same standard as Milan, or what I would expect under another manager," he said.
"They are not as intense, the players aren't as motivated. It is the same as we used to do at Tottenham years ago. When we played West Ham he told the players "you're not fit, you're not this, you're not that".
"I said 'but the problem is we don't have any plan in the game, we don't know how to press as a team’. It's not about just running around, you need to play with your brain.
"After West Ham he said all of the team is not fit. After Liverpool, because the performance was so good, he said everything was perfect. What, in one week, he changed the fitness? Impossible."