BrainOfLevy
Michael Carrick
Absolute state of this thread. The arguments against a Manager that has done literal wonders for us really are sad to read.
First of all, this idea that ‘we aren’t seeing the evidence he can turn it around’ just subscribes to a notion of football that I thought we had debunked when Poch first started getting success here. He is a great Manager, he has the skills, the characteristics, the qualities, but he is not the only reason we succeeded. We were able to overcome the disadvantage of less money by building a squad where everyone was bought in to the bigger picture, everyone wanted to be here, everyone had a relentless desire to improve, was suited to the system and everything that entailed. That created a unity, a spirit, a common cause and a team that could overcome structural disadvantages. And that wasn’t only down to Poch. He was a perfect fit for the situation, but it also required Levy reducing expectations on a new Manager for the first time in years. It requires him backing Poch’s moves to sell certain players, to get the ones he wanted, and it required players good enough to take responsibility and step up when they had the opportunity. The entire club was pointed in one direction and that was why we succeeded. Poch was a massive part of it, but Levy and the players did their part as well.
Now, Poch has been calling for a rebuild for two years. He’s wanted it to happen, for various reasons it hasn’t happened. So he’s left with a squad that partly doesn’t have as much of a financial disadvantage anymore, but has lost a bit of unity, the relentless desire to improve, the clear sightedness that Spurs is the best place for them. The issues are not just one of the Manager, it is that the players no longer want to be here in some cases, and in others we haven’t been able to find the buyers. Changing the Manager doesn’t change those issues - it doesn’t make players want to stay, and it doesn’t make it any easier for us to shift them than it has been. Changing Manager puts us on course for a new strategy, and all of the different pieces will have to be in place to make that work, just as before. In this instance, we need certain players out, otherwise no Manager will succeed.
All this talk of tactics or whether he drops this or that player are misnomers IMO. The structural issues need to align for us to really power forward again, like they did 5 years ago. That is how a club is successful.
Secondly, the question really should be answered by those that are claiming it is super simple to just drop the players as he did before...why isn’t he doing it? Please offer any explanation at all as to why, just to show that you have at least thought about the other side of the argument. There simply has to be reasons. It is no use saying he’s missing the obvious thing, as that is just rubbish debating. For what it’s worth, I think he will drop those players, as the season progresses, we will be seeing the new ones player bigger roles. But this isn’t a case of old players refusing to conform to new methods. This is current players simply not having the same relentless spark at this club that they had 5 years ago. It happens, simply because of the passage of time. And if they are part of the squad, we need them, if only to protect and save up the legs of the players we will need later in the year. Not to mention, taking this as an example, Eriksen. We couldn’t sell him, so we get no fee. The silver lining should be we still have a good player in our squad. But not if we bomb him we don’t. It’s not an easy, obvious decision, particularly if he is still working hard in training, just feeling slightly less inspired. How ridiculous would it be to keep him for that final year, not play him, and then lose him for nothing anyway? Is the benefit to the rest of the team so obvious by bombing him? It isnt. But he will he dropped as the season kicks into high gear, it will just be when we don’t need him as much and we’re properly phasing in the new crew.
First of all, this idea that ‘we aren’t seeing the evidence he can turn it around’ just subscribes to a notion of football that I thought we had debunked when Poch first started getting success here. He is a great Manager, he has the skills, the characteristics, the qualities, but he is not the only reason we succeeded. We were able to overcome the disadvantage of less money by building a squad where everyone was bought in to the bigger picture, everyone wanted to be here, everyone had a relentless desire to improve, was suited to the system and everything that entailed. That created a unity, a spirit, a common cause and a team that could overcome structural disadvantages. And that wasn’t only down to Poch. He was a perfect fit for the situation, but it also required Levy reducing expectations on a new Manager for the first time in years. It requires him backing Poch’s moves to sell certain players, to get the ones he wanted, and it required players good enough to take responsibility and step up when they had the opportunity. The entire club was pointed in one direction and that was why we succeeded. Poch was a massive part of it, but Levy and the players did their part as well.
Now, Poch has been calling for a rebuild for two years. He’s wanted it to happen, for various reasons it hasn’t happened. So he’s left with a squad that partly doesn’t have as much of a financial disadvantage anymore, but has lost a bit of unity, the relentless desire to improve, the clear sightedness that Spurs is the best place for them. The issues are not just one of the Manager, it is that the players no longer want to be here in some cases, and in others we haven’t been able to find the buyers. Changing the Manager doesn’t change those issues - it doesn’t make players want to stay, and it doesn’t make it any easier for us to shift them than it has been. Changing Manager puts us on course for a new strategy, and all of the different pieces will have to be in place to make that work, just as before. In this instance, we need certain players out, otherwise no Manager will succeed.
All this talk of tactics or whether he drops this or that player are misnomers IMO. The structural issues need to align for us to really power forward again, like they did 5 years ago. That is how a club is successful.
Secondly, the question really should be answered by those that are claiming it is super simple to just drop the players as he did before...why isn’t he doing it? Please offer any explanation at all as to why, just to show that you have at least thought about the other side of the argument. There simply has to be reasons. It is no use saying he’s missing the obvious thing, as that is just rubbish debating. For what it’s worth, I think he will drop those players, as the season progresses, we will be seeing the new ones player bigger roles. But this isn’t a case of old players refusing to conform to new methods. This is current players simply not having the same relentless spark at this club that they had 5 years ago. It happens, simply because of the passage of time. And if they are part of the squad, we need them, if only to protect and save up the legs of the players we will need later in the year. Not to mention, taking this as an example, Eriksen. We couldn’t sell him, so we get no fee. The silver lining should be we still have a good player in our squad. But not if we bomb him we don’t. It’s not an easy, obvious decision, particularly if he is still working hard in training, just feeling slightly less inspired. How ridiculous would it be to keep him for that final year, not play him, and then lose him for nothing anyway? Is the benefit to the rest of the team so obvious by bombing him? It isnt. But he will he dropped as the season kicks into high gear, it will just be when we don’t need him as much and we’re properly phasing in the new crew.