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Jan Vertonghen

He was very good his first season. Then again, we come off a very successful season and had a new ambitious manager with one of the best players in the world in our team.

Then we sell our best player, bring in second rate, continue to play jan out of position when he was signed to play centre back.

Alot of broken promises within the last year surrounding signings and the selling of Bale, but I bet one of those was vert playing left back.
 
He was very good his first season. Then again, we come off a very successful season and had a new ambitious manager with one of the best players in the world in our team.

Then we sell our best player, bring in second rate, continue to play jan out of position when he was signed to play centre back.

Alot of broken promises within the last year surrounding signings and the selling of Bale, but I bet one of those was vert playing left back.

Bit of a myth really. Had a few good runs down the left and scored a couple of goals early on, but defensively he was just as bad then as now.
 
Bit of a myth really. Had a few good runs down the left and scored a couple of goals early on, but defensively he was just as bad then as now.

short memoryism clearly.. the guy was a rock from Feb onwards after gettting to grips
 
He was very good his first season. Then again, we come off a very successful season and had a new ambitious manager with one of the best players in the world in our team.

Then we sell our best player, bring in second rate, continue to play jan out of position when he was signed to play centre back.

Alot of broken promises within the last year surrounding signings and the selling of Bale, but I bet one of those was vert playing left back.

I can see where you are coming from but...

1. Most of his games in the first season were at left back and as you say, he looked excellent there.

2. It still does not explain schoolboy errors that have plagued his game in the last two seasons.
 
Arsenal fans used to say Wenger Knows.

Not sure it's as true as it was but he certainly called it right with this guy. Goons wanted him but Wenger wanted to convert him to a midfielder.

Jan thinks he's a CB and isn't interested in anything else. He's a great footballer, good feet, decent tackler, ok pace, good passer.

As a defender? Honestly he's pretty lazy, loses concentration too easily, gets the hump and loses focus when the games going against him. And he's poor in the air both in reading the flight of the ball and also in the physical challenge.

Think his attitude is pretty questionable at best and at worst I get a worrying impression he's a negative person to have around whrn the going ain't great bringing those Around him down. The guy in your team in the office that's been there years but constantly moans about how **** the company and his job is.

Honestly couldn't give a toss if this guy goes he hasn't had a good game for almost 2 years now
 
Arsenal fans used to say Wenger Knows.

Not sure it's as true as it was but he certainly called it right with this guy. Goons wanted him but Wenger wanted to convert him to a midfielder.

Jan thinks he's a CB and isn't interested in anything else. He's a great footballer, good feet, decent tackler, ok pace, good passer.

As a defender? Honestly he's pretty lazy, loses concentration too easily, gets the hump and loses focus when the games going against him. And he's poor in the air both in reading the flight of the ball and also in the physical challenge.

Think his attitude is pretty questionable at best and at worst I get a worrying impression he's a negative person to have around whrn the going ain't great bringing those Around him down. The guy in your team in the office that's been there years but constantly moans about how **** the company and his job is.

Honestly couldn't give a toss if this guy goes he hasn't had a good game for almost 2 years now

I don't think he had the qualities of a good central midfielder though either.
 
I don't think we want to be selling Verts just yet .... This is the player who turned down CL football with Arseanal. He chose us because he wanted to play games in his favoured position in central defence but due to the mismanagement of the squad, found himself playing left-back .

He's is our best defender but granted, his form is not what it should be and his demeanor at times has been poor. But it has to be said, that the club has let him down, Sherwood in particular.

Mumorn is the only one talking sense on the last page or two and some of the stick Vertonghen is getting here is all wrong.

Jan Vertonghen PFA team 2012–13 .
 
If he's sold, it won't really be a blow. He's certainly talented, and will probably end up being successful somewhere else: but he hasn't really become integral to our team, so his loss won't be too keenly felt. That's really all that can be said about him at the moment.
 
Don't rate him at all to be honest. Not got the right attitude and is **** 1 on 1. He may be a good DM but i wouldn't mind if we **** him off for £15 - £20m.
 
I think Vertonghen is a top class defender. But his performance has gone done recently after being paired with error-prone players like Dawson, Kaboul and Chiriches. We will be doing a big mistake if we let him go. We should buy a quality defender to partner him in defence.
 
I think Vertonghen is a top class defender. But his performance has gone done recently after being paired with error-prone players like Dawson, Kaboul and Chiriches. We will be doing a big mistake if we let him go. We should buy a quality defender to partner him in defence.

Hmmm maybe the problem is Vertonghen? Or at least it can't be blamed on everyone else. He managed to win PFA team of the year playing with Dawson. Chiriches and Dawson formed a decent partnership at the start of the next season and IMO it was Vertonghens return where our defending went downhill.

He's just as error prone as any of the others have been for the last season and a half
 
he's fine in a team that is playing well, in a struggling side when the onus has been on him to lead he's been found lacking, because of that I'm not sure any top sides will come in for him
 
he's fine in a team that is playing well, in a struggling side when the onus has been on him to lead he's been found lacking, because of that I'm not sure any top sides will come in for him

Yeah he's like a BMW - looks and drives great in dry weather.

Bit of snow on the road? Don't even bother trying to take it out it will slide all over the place.

;)
 
I think Vertonghen is a top class defender. But his performance has gone done recently after being paired with error-prone players like Dawson, Kaboul and Chiriches. We will be doing a big mistake if we let him go. We should buy a quality defender to partner him in defence.

Yep lets blame everyone else and not point any of the blame in Vertonghens direction. "Top class" defenders put in good performances regardless of who they are playing next to. Ledley King is a prime example and i'm afraid Verts is no where near that class and never will be.
 
Yeah he's like a BMW - looks and drives great in dry weather.

Bit of snow on the road? Don't even bother trying to take it out it will slide all over the place.

;)

Nah, that's just because you southerners don't know how to drive.
 
I can see where you are coming from but...

1. Most of his games in the first season were at left back and as you say, he looked excellent there.

2. It still does not explain schoolboy errors that have plagued his game in the last two seasons.

No he wasn't - he hardly ever played at left back in his first season.

Last year we had either him or naughton to play there so he filled in for about 10 games - all this stuff about him sulking at being left back is a joke because if true, it was temporary measure as we had no one else. Everytime we have had a relatively injury free squad he has played centre half 99% of the time
 
I think Vertonghen is a top class defender. But his performance has gone done recently after being paired with error-prone players like Dawson, Kaboul and Chiriches. We will be doing a big mistake if we let him go. We should buy a quality defender to partner him in defence.

Begs the question why Daws didn't have the same negative effect on King. Whereas it's generally acknowledged the opposite was the case.

Top players raise the game of those around them.
 
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