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Huddlestone

This he was brilliant against City credit to him but let's not get carried away. We have no proof he can play 90 minutes and for most of the season he has been really poor

Methinks the best time to play a player is when he is confident and in form. Considering how little game time he has had recently methinks it applies to Hudd at the moment. He gives us creativity in midfield that Parker simply cannot, I think he deserves a start
 
Can't blame him as he is 27 this year and needs to play regularly. But not sure if we can guarantee him regular football as he has not proved his worth consistently. I don't think he is a 90 minute player as he has been more effective coming on as a sub.

If we are in the CL he does not have to play every match anyway. The truth is you do not know whether or not he is a 90 minute player because it has been a while since he played 90 minutes for us. It does not mean he cannot do it. I think it often depends on whom he has playing around him. For instance if he played in a 433 formation alongside Sandro and Dembele I would question whether is lack of lateral pace would cost us.

If he did leave us however I would wish him well. in the right team he would be an amazing deep lying play maker
 
What people are saying is that he isn't at that level now and has been injured, then struggling for fitness for the last two seasons. We can't afford to give him an extended run in the team in the hope that he will get better by playing.

Whatever criticism people say about him, and to be honest I have occasionally been hard him, I remain firm on one fact, he has been the best passer of the ball since he came to this club. I am just disappointed we could not get more out of him.
 
It just amazes me that people refuse to believe that he has had a crucial impact in our highest ever premier league finishes, is a champions league level player, passes a ball as well as any other English footballer, and always has an impact when fit and with a run of games.

I think he's great and I would be sad to see him go.

And it's not about "he is so big he can't move or turn" because whilst he's not a whippet, he gets about enough to do what he does effectively. And he also rips teams apart when he smashes early, accurate balls out to the wings.

Plus I love it when one of his screamers goes in.

I use to love his amazing passes to Lennon on the right
 
Guess today is judgement day for the Hudd and his supporters
He cannot play in a better suited game - against a team that will play deep and giving him time on the ball plus with the protection of two terriers in Parker and Dembele.
Come on, Tom. Show us you've got what it needs to stake a regular spot in the team!!!
 
Played extremely well today. Happy that he is regaining his form back.

Must have been watching a different game, or at least viewing it with a different perspective.

When you play Hudd from the start, you inevitably sacrifice some mobility. When you do that, your ability to close the opposition down is nullified, and if the opposition close you down, you'll find it difficult to regain the ball once you've lost it.

Today, against a packed 6-man defence, Hudd was reduced to floating long balls over the top that became increasingly inaccurate as the game wore on. For the first twenty or so minutes, he was dangerous, buzzing around the pitch: after that, he was mainly anonymous, though I cannot determine whether that was down to him or the team as a whole being sub-par.

Point is, playing him from the start didn't work today.
 
IMO he completely disrupted the way we've been playing for a long time now. We usually keep it tight and knock the ball around in the 1st half and some of the 2nd, but he's always going for the glory passes. He could and probably should make a good distributor of the ball, but he's not in sync with the style of play we've been developing.
 
Must have been watching a different game, or at least viewing it with a different perspective.

When you play Hudd from the start, you inevitably sacrifice some mobility. When you do that, your ability to close the opposition down is nullified, and if the opposition close you down, you'll find it difficult to regain the ball once you've lost it.

Today, against a packed 6-man defence, Hudd was reduced to floating long balls over the top that became increasingly inaccurate as the game wore on. For the first twenty or so minutes, he was dangerous, buzzing around the pitch: after that, he was mainly anonymous, though I cannot determine whether that was down to him or the team as a whole being sub-par.

Point is, playing him from the start didn't work today.

He did the job he was suposed to do and did it well. You can't blame Huddlestone for AVB's tactical decisions. He completed 91 passes in the game! That's more than Bale, Defoe, Dempsey and Dembele put together.
 
He did the job he was suposed to do and did it well. You can't blame Huddlestone for AVB's tactical decisions. He completed 91 passes in the game! That's more than Bale, Defoe, Dempsey and Dembele put together.

I don't blame him. Like I said, playing him from the start didn't work, regardless of his passes. That's not his decision, it's AVB's.

And a lot of those passes he did complete were short sideways ones to Parker, Dawson and Vertonghen, if I remember correctly,as he was running back to cover.
 
IMO he completely disrupted the way we've been playing for a long time now. We usually keep it tight and knock the ball around in the 1st half and some of the 2nd, but he's always going for the glory passes. He could and probably should make a good distributor of the ball, but he's not in sync with the style of play we've been developing.

Don't necessarily agree. I think of late we haven't controlled any game. For the first time in the first half we looked like we controlled the tempo. What we massively missed was Mousa. With him, Holtby and Huddlestone, it's a good dynamic giventhe options in the squad. The ability to vary it, short, long. Also he came deep and looked to get it off the back four. Where we suffered was when Wigan scored to go ahead and they dropped really deep. We were completely devoid of any ideas. That's where Mousa really helps. The ability to drop a shoulder and commit a few players. We need some clever intricate passers of the ball. Modric and Rafa I miss those guys.
 
SO close to getting a haircut, twice.

Now Dembele looks set to be out, I hope he's ready to see out the rest of the season.
 
I'm sorry but if anyone thinks we played worse today than we did against City until Hudd came on they are crazy. To say he disrupted the way we played kind of ignores how rubbish we were against City until he came on, how poor we were against Basel, Everton and Fulham. Who disrupted our play against those teams? I think people should even re read the match day thread against Swansea, as most were far from impressed with how we played.

Basically we've been playing poorly since the Liverpool game and it's got absolutely nothing to do with the Hudd who has only been an asset and our best stuff in that period has been with him on the pitch.
 
He did really well in the first half when Wigan played the high line. In the second half he struggled more, but so did the whole team, when Wigan sat deeper.


If we play Parker, Dembele and Huddlestone then Huddlestone is the most creative out of the three by a mile, why AVB plays Parker as the box to box one out of the three is totally beyond me, Parker should stay in our half ! Perhaps play Dembele furthest forward then it would not matter so much when he keeps getting caught in possession.
 
Thought he was great first half doing exactly what was needed, then in the second the fact that he was paired with Parker became more of a problem because we needed a goal against a deep defence.

He would have been ideal next to Sig, but once we brought Lennon on and went more 442 it wasn't really the ideal system for him. As AVB has hinted, if he plays Hudd he wants it to be in a 433.

In terms of his closing down and positioning to win the ball back, I thought he was very good.
 
Methinks the best time to play a player is when he is confident and in form. Considering how little game time he has had recently methinks it applies to Hudd at the moment. He gives us creativity in midfield that Parker simply cannot, methinks he deserves a start

Corrected
 
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