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Gareth Bale
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Tom Huddlestone
Re: Gareth Bale
Probably because when he played for us we told the truth about him: he was brick
Probably because when he played for us we told the truth about him: he was brick
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Re: Gareth Bale
Sanctamonious claptrap. It is all very well sermonising from the stands that this player or that player shouldnt "dive". We have no idea what it is like to play at this level.
Dont you find it strange that some of the most skilful players in the game are labelled "divers". Henry, Drogba, Messi, Nani, Suarez, Bale, Young, Ronaldo. Look at the common denominator. They are fast skillful players often targetted by thugs like Adam and the like. Is it surprising they have all developed a defensive self preservation mechanism? This is among the most basic human instincts. Funnily enough, I dont see any CBs and goalkeepers on this list.
Where diving becomes cheating is when a player appeals for a foul when he hasnt been fouled. That is plain cheating. It is not the dive or evasive action in itself that is the problem.
Just be grateful we have one of the worlds leading players at WHL and enjoy his skills. Those who are quick to criticise this aspect would be the first to moan if he decided to leave WHL because of the lack of support he receives.
Sanctamonious claptrap. It is all very well sermonising from the stands that this player or that player shouldnt "dive". We have no idea what it is like to play at this level.
Dont you find it strange that some of the most skilful players in the game are labelled "divers". Henry, Drogba, Messi, Nani, Suarez, Bale, Young, Ronaldo. Look at the common denominator. They are fast skillful players often targetted by thugs like Adam and the like. Is it surprising they have all developed a defensive self preservation mechanism? This is among the most basic human instincts. Funnily enough, I dont see any CBs and goalkeepers on this list.
Where diving becomes cheating is when a player appeals for a foul when he hasnt been fouled. That is plain cheating. It is not the dive or evasive action in itself that is the problem.
Just be grateful we have one of the worlds leading players at WHL and enjoy his skills. Those who are quick to criticise this aspect would be the first to moan if he decided to leave WHL because of the lack of support he receives.
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Re: Gareth Bale
Yes the skilful players are targeted but I don't think this point really stands up as you could equally make a different list of skilful players who are not considered divers. And I wouldn't call Messi a diver, nor Ronaldo who seems to have stopped it too.
One might also argue it is the attackers that dive because they stand to gain the most from that behaviour - pen, free kicks around the box, etc.. And it is not unheard of that keepers and defenders go down very easy when it suits them too.
Diving is cheating and I can't understand why there is an argument about it. Bale has been already labelled as a diver and it is up to him to shake that tag.
Yes the skilful players are targeted but I don't think this point really stands up as you could equally make a different list of skilful players who are not considered divers. And I wouldn't call Messi a diver, nor Ronaldo who seems to have stopped it too.
One might also argue it is the attackers that dive because they stand to gain the most from that behaviour - pen, free kicks around the box, etc.. And it is not unheard of that keepers and defenders go down very easy when it suits them too.
Diving is cheating and I can't understand why there is an argument about it. Bale has been already labelled as a diver and it is up to him to shake that tag.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Re: Gareth Bale
re-read the penultimate paragraph of my earlier post if you want to understand the difference. Cheating is where one tries to get an unfair advantage illegally. Diving per se is NOT cheating. Appealing for a foul when one hasnt in fact been fouled IS cheating.
re-read the penultimate paragraph of my earlier post if you want to understand the difference. Cheating is where one tries to get an unfair advantage illegally. Diving per se is NOT cheating. Appealing for a foul when one hasnt in fact been fouled IS cheating.
Essex Yid
Bobby Zamora
Re: Gareth Bale
Former Wales player Mickey Thomas feels Ronaldo's Real Madrid and Messi's Barcelona will soon be "fighting for Bale's signature".
"It's probably the best I've seen [from a Wales player]," said Thomas.
"I played with some great players in my career but, watching that performance, not just his goals - his ability to create opportunities for his team-mates - and when he's in that mood and when he's in that stride, he is unstoppable.
"I've seen the best. I've seen Ronaldo; I've seen them all. He's on a par with them now.
"The only difference is they play for Barcelona with players like Messi. He's at Tottenham.
"Let me tell you, he will be at one of those clubs before too long. Those top teams - Barcelona and Real Madrid - will be fighting for his signature, for sure."
This really tinkled me off this morning. Why has it got to be that all the best players suddenly apparently have to be touted by the biggest teams? Why whenever our best players are on form does every man and his dog in the media have to give them a reacharound and say they should be playing at a higher level?
Fvck them all, Bale is a Spurs player, he's enjoying it here, we're doing well, leave us alone.
Former Wales player Mickey Thomas feels Ronaldo's Real Madrid and Messi's Barcelona will soon be "fighting for Bale's signature".
"It's probably the best I've seen [from a Wales player]," said Thomas.
"I played with some great players in my career but, watching that performance, not just his goals - his ability to create opportunities for his team-mates - and when he's in that mood and when he's in that stride, he is unstoppable.
"I've seen the best. I've seen Ronaldo; I've seen them all. He's on a par with them now.
"The only difference is they play for Barcelona with players like Messi. He's at Tottenham.
"Let me tell you, he will be at one of those clubs before too long. Those top teams - Barcelona and Real Madrid - will be fighting for his signature, for sure."
This really tinkled me off this morning. Why has it got to be that all the best players suddenly apparently have to be touted by the biggest teams? Why whenever our best players are on form does every man and his dog in the media have to give them a reacharound and say they should be playing at a higher level?
Fvck them all, Bale is a Spurs player, he's enjoying it here, we're doing well, leave us alone.
Pirate55
The Last Man Standing 17/18
Re: Gareth Bale
Exactly. Long may he continue to enjoy it at WHL - and not get hacked off by moaning "fans" having a go at him about his diving, hurdling, jumping, leaping etc etc to avoid injury.
Lets all appreciate what we have got in Bale and stop criticising him.
Exactly. Long may he continue to enjoy it at WHL - and not get hacked off by moaning "fans" having a go at him about his diving, hurdling, jumping, leaping etc etc to avoid injury.
Lets all appreciate what we have got in Bale and stop criticising him.
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
at least at Real and Barca the fans tolerate diving. Would be good for Bale not to have his own fans on his back
at least at Real and Barca the fans tolerate diving. Would be good for Bale not to have his own fans on his back
Kingdawson
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indianspur
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Re: Gareth Bale
weird? im yet to meet a fan of either who has an issue with their own players diving or even feigning injury
weird? im yet to meet a fan of either who has an issue with their own players diving or even feigning injury
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Re: Gareth Bale
I understand that you are trying to make a distinction between diving and cheating but I disagree with you. The appeal for a foul after a dive only compounds it. The ref might give a free kick irrespective of an appeal.
Maybe we are debating the definition of the word 'diving' but I'm taking it as a player going to ground without being touched for the intention of getting a free kick. This to me is cheating. If he falls because he loses his balance or whatever then fine, that is different. I don't class that as diving, nor would anyone else I imagine.
I understand that you are trying to make a distinction between diving and cheating but I disagree with you. The appeal for a foul after a dive only compounds it. The ref might give a free kick irrespective of an appeal.
Maybe we are debating the definition of the word 'diving' but I'm taking it as a player going to ground without being touched for the intention of getting a free kick. This to me is cheating. If he falls because he loses his balance or whatever then fine, that is different. I don't class that as diving, nor would anyone else I imagine.
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Re: Gareth Bale
exactly, if a player slides in and invades the space you would be running in to, if you jump over that challenge, don't get touched but lose your balance on landing, that absolutely should be a foul (mostly is tbf as well). This is what I think Bale was antcipating with Guzan, but I don't want to open up that can of worms again.
exactly, if a player slides in and invades the space you would be running in to, if you jump over that challenge, don't get touched but lose your balance on landing, that absolutely should be a foul (mostly is tbf as well). This is what I think Bale was antcipating with Guzan, but I don't want to open up that can of worms again.
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Steve Carr
Gazza Dazzla
Chris Perry
Re: Gareth Bale
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