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Gareth Bale

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what I hated was that he called us a selling club. I can some of his point. But if its true that we sell Bale for world Record fee then that would make Man Utd a selling club also for letting Ronaldo go? surely? no?

Berbatov and Modric have both forced our hand, by being horrible F*****s. LE Scum always sell their players.
 
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Man Utd to enter the bidding war...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...dy-to-enter-race-for-gareth-bale-8756408.html

Manchester United may offer competition to Real Madrid in the pursuit of Gareth Bale this week, with Tottenham Hotspur seemingly more receptive to the English champions, having become deeply frustrated by negotiations with the Spanish side.

United have not made a firm offer for Bale and, as the transfer window enters its last three weeks, they will be acutely aware of any attempt to use them as a way of flushing out a serious bid from the Bernabeu, at a time when Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is beginning to doubt whether the Spaniards actually possess the funds.

But United's failure to land a big-money signing this summer may persuade them to make a huge investment, to deliver the boost which is badly needed at the start of the David Moyes era, as well as goals and momentum. The failure to secure a marquee name has only amplified the noise created by Wayne Rooney and his desire to leave.

The odds are stacked against such a deal coming to fruition. The impediments to United securing Bale include Spurs' valuation which is believed to be around £110m, though the appeal of Javier Hernandez to the north London club could conceivably help in that department. It is also unclear whether United would be able to agree personal terms with Bale. They have been reluctant throughout about the prospect of being strung along by Levy, a frustrating sparring partner in the acquisition of Michael Carrick in 2006 and Dimitar Berbatov two years later. But that sentiment may have changed now that the summer has brought no new big name.

Moyes insisted Rooney is staying at Old Trafford, and his determination to hold on to the unhappy England striker was easy to understand after watching Manchester United labour to a 2-0 victory over Wigan Athletic, of the Championship, in the Community Shield. United dominated possession but the provenance of Robin van Persie's goals – an unmarked long-range header and a deflected shot – underlined their lack of creativity. Rooney, of course, was absent with a shoulder injury.

That injury, said Moyes, was genuine, but would not prevent him returning to Wembley to play for England against Scotland on Wednesday, albeit not for the whole game. The Scot said: "Wayne wasn't fit [today], he's a bit short. You don't think I'm going to send England a fit player! It is a big game for Scotland too."

That moment of jocularity was the exception in a spiky exchange with the media regarding Rooney. Asked if he was fed up of talking about the 27-year-old, Moyes said: "I'm enjoying talking about it because so many of you have got it wrong. I didn't fall out with Wayne, he trained with the reserves at his own request. He couldn't have contact because of his shoulder injury so he played as a floating player [a player who plays for the team in possession] with no contact. Anyone who wrote anything else is misleading their readers."

Moyes, who said he had spoken at length with Roy Hodgson about Rooney's condition, added: "I want him to join up [with England]. It would be great for Manchester United, hopefully he can get some playing time. He is not fit and you will probably see that in the game. He will probably play a chunk, but he has not had enough football – just 45 minutes against Real Betis in a friendly. The club's policy is he will not be sold. That has not changed."

With United expected to make a joint £35m bid to Everton for Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini this week, Moyes said: "We're moving forward [to making signings]. Every day you get closer – and so does the [transfer] deadline – but if we have to I am happy to go with what we have. We have a lot of good, young English players.
 
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whilst Real are around potentially offering silly money, Levy will not sell to an English rival

anyway, Utd have taken the no 7 shirt away from Valencia and it is now vacant for a footballer worthy of wearing it......

i wonder:-k

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Man Utd to enter the bidding war...

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...dy-to-enter-race-for-gareth-bale-8756408.html

Manchester United may offer competition to Real Madrid in the pursuit of Gareth Bale this week, with Tottenham Hotspur seemingly more receptive to the English champions, having become deeply frustrated by negotiations with the Spanish side.

United have not made a firm offer for Bale and, as the transfer window enters its last three weeks, they will be acutely aware of any attempt to use them as a way of flushing out a serious bid from the Bernabeu, at a time when Spurs chairman Daniel Levy is beginning to doubt whether the Spaniards actually possess the funds.

But United's failure to land a big-money signing this summer may persuade them to make a huge investment, to deliver the boost which is badly needed at the start of the David Moyes era, as well as goals and momentum. The failure to secure a marquee name has only amplified the noise created by Wayne Rooney and his desire to leave.

The odds are stacked against such a deal coming to fruition. The impediments to United securing Bale include Spurs' valuation which is believed to be around £110m, though the appeal of Javier Hernandez to the north London club could conceivably help in that department. It is also unclear whether United would be able to agree personal terms with Bale. They have been reluctant throughout about the prospect of being strung along by Levy, a frustrating sparring partner in the acquisition of Michael Carrick in 2006 and Dimitar Berbatov two years later. But that sentiment may have changed now that the summer has brought no new big name.

Moyes insisted Rooney is staying at Old Trafford, and his determination to hold on to the unhappy England striker was easy to understand after watching Manchester United labour to a 2-0 victory over Wigan Athletic, of the Championship, in the Community Shield. United dominated possession but the provenance of Robin van Persie's goals – an unmarked long-range header and a deflected shot – underlined their lack of creativity. Rooney, of course, was absent with a shoulder injury.

That injury, said Moyes, was genuine, but would not prevent him returning to Wembley to play for England against Scotland on Wednesday, albeit not for the whole game. The Scot said: "Wayne wasn't fit [today], he's a bit short. You don't think I'm going to send England a fit player! It is a big game for Scotland too."

That moment of jocularity was the exception in a spiky exchange with the media regarding Rooney. Asked if he was fed up of talking about the 27-year-old, Moyes said: "I'm enjoying talking about it because so many of you have got it wrong. I didn't fall out with Wayne, he trained with the reserves at his own request. He couldn't have contact because of his shoulder injury so he played as a floating player [a player who plays for the team in possession] with no contact. Anyone who wrote anything else is misleading their readers."

Moyes, who said he had spoken at length with Roy Hodgson about Rooney's condition, added: "I want him to join up [with England]. It would be great for Manchester United, hopefully he can get some playing time. He is not fit and you will probably see that in the game. He will probably play a chunk, but he has not had enough football – just 45 minutes against Real Betis in a friendly. The club's policy is he will not be sold. That has not changed."

With United expected to make a joint £35m bid to Everton for Leighton Baines and Marouane Fellaini this week, Moyes said: "We're moving forward [to making signings]. Every day you get closer – and so does the [transfer] deadline – but if we have to I am happy to go with what we have. We have a lot of good, young English players.

Why on earth would we be frustrated? If there are negotiations (a very big if in the first place), and Real doesn't meet our valuation of the player, it's Real that would be frustrated - not us. That sentence makes it look like Spurs are actively trying to sell Bale, offering him to anyone. Proper flimflam reporting, again.
 
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Guy on the paper review on SSN said he felt the above Independent stories had a lot of inaccuracies in it...
 
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Robbo I agree, for some reason the papers have constantly tried to paint us and willing sellers trying to work towards an amicable solution, rather than a club determined to keep their star player unless ridiculous money is offered. Besides, the idea that we would be more receptive to selling to an English rival is ridiculous itself, it would basically confirm them finishing way ahead of us, in a year when we are intending for a big push.

I think the story is planted by someone close to Spurs to hurry Madrid into making a serious bid or buggering off though. No way could United afford Bale.
 
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This is the first time this summer that I've felt that we might be better off selling him.

What makes you say that now? The realization that even if we keep him, his head has been turned so far that it will probably never return to it's proper starting position again? Madrid (and by proxy Barnett) have really fudged the boy's head over IMO...it's a real shame...got to say, I'm really happy the manager is getting on with it as best he can and really not addressing the situation in any sense more than ignoring it/moving on. Personally, I hope he gets what he wants from the situation, whatever that may be at this moment in time...
 
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What makes you say that now? The realization that even if we keep him, his head has been turned so far that it will probably return to it's proper starting position again? Madrid (and by proxy Barnett) have really fudged the boy's head over IMO...it's a real shame...got to say, I'm really happy the manager is getting on with it as best he can and really not addressing the situation in any sense more than ignoring it/moving on. Personally, I hope he gets what he wants from the situation, whatever that may be at this moment in time...

Out of curiousity what do you know about the state of Bales' head?
 
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Out of curiousity what do you know about the state of Bales' head?

This. There really is no proof - absolutely nothing - that suggests Bale's head has been turned, that he desperately wants out now, or that he is refusing to play.

It's all rumours and speculation, opinions and guesses from people who don't really know what is happening, but make a living by pretending they do.

And how on earth anyone can suggest that we're better off "letting him go", is baffling - in what way are we better off? The only way would be that there would be no more tiresome speculations about Bale's future. Oh, and our bank account would be better off. As a team we would suffer massively. Likewise in terms of marketing and PR.

The saddest thing is how all of this flimflam is creeping into Spurs fans' heads, making us turn against Bale, who - really - has done nothing wrong that we know for certain.
 
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Doesn't help (if true) that he did not turn up at WHL on Saturday though, does it. If he is such a great team player like we're told, why would he stay away? Unless of course it was Tottenham's decision to to shield him away from the media ratpack, but if Bale is happy to stay at Tottenham, why would the club want to do that?
 
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Doesn't help (if true) that he did not turn up at WHL on Saturday though, does it. If he is such a great team player like we're told, why would he stay away? Unless of course it was Tottenham's decision to to shield him away from the media ratpack, but if Bale is happy to stay at Tottenham, why would the club want to do that?

I have heard this morning from a reliable source that the deal is done, the snag being Levy wants 2 payments over 2 years and the two bobs want to make 4 payments over 4 years, I hope to GHod that they dont have the money available.
 
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The rumors of United going in for him are absolutely laughable. After Berbatov, I'm not sure Levy would even pick up their calls. Now add to that the fact that they're in the same league as us and are as broke as Madrid (if not more so)and it becomes utterly ludicrous.
 
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Doesn't help (if true) that he did not turn up at WHL on Saturday though, does it. If he is such a great team player like we're told, why would he stay away? Unless of course it was Tottenham's decision to to shield him away from the media ratpack, but if Bale is happy to stay at Tottenham, why would the club want to do that?

Agreed. Very difficult at this point to think that he hasn't had his head turned at all.
 
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Doesn't help (if true) that he did not turn up at WHL on Saturday though, does it. If he is such a great team player like we're told, why would he stay away? Unless of course it was Tottenham's decision to to shield him away from the media ratpack, but if Bale is happy to stay at Tottenham, why would the club want to do that?

Why doesn't it help? What does it matter if he shows up to watch a friendly game or not? Was Vertonghen there? Holtby?

The thing is, this doesn't prove anything, either way. Just because we've been fed so much flimflam and speculation this summer, we as fans start to interpret every little thing Bale does as a sign of him wanting away.

As for him being a great team player or not, I'd say it is his everyday contact with teammates and coaches in training that determines that, not whether or not he shows up to watch a friendly game - which, lets face it, is just an advanced training session with another team.
 
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