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Gareth Bale

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It looks to me like the press are clutching at straws....none of us know the truth....a deal could be close/done or nowhere near... I have even seen one report where Madrid will move onto Suarez if they have not done a deal with us by 20th August.

It really is a waiting game for a max 3 weeks as to whether he will play in our shirt again.

It is clear that Zidane publicly and privately has been chipping away at Gareth..... I would be more inclined to believe his head has been turned and he would like to move.....

but at the end of the day he is under contract and we are not desperate to sell.....If Madrid or anyone else cannot satisfy Levy's needs then there is no deal....the most important thing is that Levy doesn't give any leeway to those fudgers at Madrid.....they don't deserve it....

I don't care what people perceive to be Gareths state of mind......I would give an awful lot to see him in our shirt playing again.......that makes my heart sing....not imaginary deals for Lamela and so on.
 
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braineclipse said:
By having his head turned I'm not saying that he is refusing to play or demanding a move, just that he (perhaps strongly) prefers going.
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But how did you come to that conclusion? There is nothing indicating that Bale wants to move this summer, apart from countless opinoins, speculations, rumours and unfounded ITKs. Not having a go at you, so sorry if I seem harsh, but it just infuriates me that there now is a notion that Bale's head has been turned and that he wants out, based on no concrete information at all.
 
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harr1984 said:
Out of curiousity what do you know about the state of Bales' head?
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The club dos not want Bale to talk, he cant burn his bridges... And he cant say Im not leaving becouse of his Agent.

Im shoure of one thing and that is; Bale love spurs. Yea Im shoure he want to win things but I dont think he will stop playing his magic if he stay.

I thing the media, havent turned Bales head, I think It has turned alot of supporters heads...

Bdw. It got me thinking, if we had let him go in the start of the summer, ppl would go crazy on Levy, if he goes in the end, ppl will be sad and angy on him but ppl had expecting it so the reaction would not be that bad.

I still hope...

Anyway THE END IS NEAR!
 
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Robbo said:
But how did you come to that conclusion? There is nothing indicating that Bale wants to move this summer, apart from countless opinoins, speculations, rumours and unfounded ITKs. Not having a go at you, so sorry if I seem harsh, but it just infuriates me that there now is a notion that Bale's head has been turned and that he wants out, based on no concrete information at all.
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Your questions are fair, didn't feel like you were having a go.

I've thought all summer that Bale probably prefers going. Because it's Real Madrid. To me I need concrete information to support that a player prefers staying with Spurs over going to Real Madrid, the other way around seems like the more reasonable default assumption.

How strongly he prefers to go and how happy he will be with staying around if the deal doesn't materialise is a different question. I suppose it's more just a gut feeling for me at this point. His complete media silence, the comments from his agent, his absence from games, comments from the more trustworthy (or less distrustworthy?) journalists like Greg Stobart and so on.

To me, despite the lack of concrete information, that all adds up to that I think it's more likely that he really wants to go.
 
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I'd say Bale's conduct has been pretty good in all this, so far. He's made no public comment either way, which is exactly what you would expect if he/his agent was trying to renegotiate his contract at Spurs, or negotiate a transfer elsewhere in an amicable (as possible) way. Personally I'd rather we strengthen a team with Bale in than without, but either way I suspect we will have a good enough squad to challenge for the top 4. I'm more concerned about tactics and the way we are going to play.
 
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Robbo said:
Why doesn't it help? What does it matter if he shows up to watch a friendly game or not? Was Vertonghen there? Holtby?

The thing is, this doesn't prove anything, either way. Just because we've been fed so much flimflam and speculation this summer, we as fans start to interpret every little thing Bale does as a sign of him wanting away.

As for him being a great team player or not, I'd say it is his everyday contact with teammates and coaches in training that determines that, not whether or not he shows up to watch a friendly game - which, lets face it, is just an advanced training session with another team.
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Applaud your faith Robbo, we can but hope.
 
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The tone of virtually every press report is that it's inevitable he will go before the end of the window; I've only seen one or two that even consider the idea of his still being a Spurs player after 2/9/13. There are only two possible explanations for this massive bias, IMO. Either (a) they're all working under their default assumption, which is that Spurs are Spurs and in the end, they'll always take the money, or (b) they are being fed that angle.

I do believe Bale himself is under strict instructions not to speak to the press; I saw an AS report yesterday that indicated they had been camped outside his house and stopped him in his car several times, but each time had been politely refused an answer to any questions.
 
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mudshark said:
The tone of virtually every press report is that it's inevitable he will go before the end of the window; I've only seen one or two that even consider the idea of his still being a Spurs player after 2/9/13. There are only two possible explanations for this massive bias, IMO. Either (a) they're all working under their default assumption, which is that Spurs are Spurs and in the end, they'll always take the money, or (b) they are being fed that angle.

I do believe Bale himself is under strict instructions not to speak to the press; I saw an AS report yesterday that indicated they had been camped outside his house and stopped him in his car several times, but each time had been politely refused an answer to any questions.
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The fact that not one person associated with the club either past or present has said that he wants to stay speaks volumes for me (correct me if I'm wrong). I've argued with various posters about agents influenced, of course they have a big say, but I simply can't believe that the player is being told what to do without any day. Of course they can get had advice, but do they have to follow that advice. I mean the player doesn't work for the agent does he? I don't know, I think it's easier for some football fans to swallow to simply blame the agent rather than accept the player wants to leave.

Does anyone think the future of Rooney could be a big factor in Bale's future? If United sell him, they would more than likely go for Ronaldo, which would give Madrid all the money they need to take Bale.
 
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mudshark said:
The tone of virtually every press report is that it's inevitable he will go before the end of the window; I've only seen one or two that even consider the idea of his still being a Spurs player after 2/9/13. There are only two possible explanations for this massive bias, IMO. Either (a) they're all working under their default assumption, which is that Spurs are Spurs and in the end, they'll always take the money, or (b) they are being fed that angle.

I do believe Bale himself is under strict instructions not to speak to the press; I saw an AS report yesterday that indicated they had been camped outside his house and stopped him in his car several times, but each time had been politely refused an answer to any questions.
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Agree that Bale has clearly agreed not to speak to the press and/or has been told not to by Levy. Its also not in his favour to do so as he wouldnt want to alienate either set of fans.

Regarding your a) and b) scenarios, a) looks realistic to me, but b) doesnt as its contrary to AVB's comments. There's also a c), which is that the press have to sell papers every day and there aren't a huge amount of big deals happening at the moment. Rooney doesnt look like moving and the foreign teams wouldnt want him so its either Bale or the Suarez sulk to write about....
 
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braineclipse said:
Your questions are fair, didn't feel like you were having a go.

I've thought all summer that Bale probably prefers going. Because it's Real Madrid. To me I need concrete information to support that a player prefers staying with Spurs over going to Real Madrid, the other way around seems like the more reasonable default assumption.

How strongly he prefers to go and how happy he will be with staying around if the deal doesn't materialise is a different question. I suppose it's more just a gut feeling for me at this point. His complete media silence, the comments from his agent, his absence from games, comments from the more trustworthy (or less distrustworthy?) journalists like Greg Stobart and so on.

To me, despite the lack of concrete information, that all adds up to that I think it's more likely that he really wants to go.
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As i have posted previously, imo the most sensible assumption is that Bale is happy to stay or go, as long as the club gets a figure they are happy with, he'll go with our blessing. If nothing acceptable materialises, imo Bale will not agitate or refuse to play, he has a contract, loves playing for us and will contribute massively for 1 more year.

The b*stard thing being is the transfer window overlapping into the start of the season, disrupting us and bales preparation and possibly missing 4/5 games until Sept. Maybe if we impose our own deal deadline, it will clarify things a bit quicker
 
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Robbo said:
This. There really is no proof - absolutely nothing - that suggests Bale's head has been turned, that he desperately wants out now, or that he is refusing to play.

It's all rumours and speculation, opinions and guesses from people who don't really know what is happening, but make a living by pretending they do.

And how on earth anyone can suggest that we're better off "letting him go", is baffling - in what way are we better off? The only way would be that there would be no more tiresome speculations about Bale's future. Oh, and our bank account would be better off. As a team we would suffer massively. Likewise in terms of marketing and PR.

The saddest thing is how all of this flimflam is creeping into Spurs fans' heads, making us turn against Bale, who - really - has done nothing wrong that we know for certain.
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Just to be clear, i want bale to stay. But looking at it without emotion....even if he stays it is likely it may only be for one more year.

Most teams could not sell their best 4 players for £100m. So if he does go we are very fortunate to be weighed-in massively for the loss of 1 player.

If we ended up with contraeo, morata, willian and £40 million, i wouldn't say we would be worse off.
 
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ricky2tricky4city said:
Just to be clear, i want bale to stay. But looking at it without emotion....even if he stays it is likely it may only be for one more year.

Most teams could not sell their best 4 players for £100m. So if he does go we are very fortunate to be weighed-in massively for the loss of 1 player.

If we ended up with contraeo, morata, willian and £40 million, i wouldn't say we would be worse off.
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I have a feeling that the Coentrao deal will happen one way or the other. He wants to leave according to quotes from Ancellotti.
 
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Rorschach said:
I have a feeling that the Coentrao deal will happen one way or the other. He wants to leave according to quotes from Ancellotti.
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Bout feckin time we got something out of this so called "partnership".

Can't see them giving up Morata and Di Maria looks like a no go.
 
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mudshark said:
The tone of virtually every press report is that it's inevitable he will go before the end of the window; I've only seen one or two that even consider the idea of his still being a Spurs player after 2/9/13. There are only two possible explanations for this massive bias, IMO. Either (a) they're all working under their default assumption, which is that Spurs are Spurs and in the end, they'll always take the money, or (b) they are being fed that angle.

I do believe Bale himself is under strict instructions not to speak to the press; I saw an AS report yesterday that indicated they had been camped outside his house and stopped him in his car several times, but each time had been politely refused an answer to any questions.
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Not all gloom and doom. Here is some good news:
Real Madrid president Florentino Perez is being urged to cut his losses on Tottenham Hotspur winger Gareth Bale and move instead for Liverpool striker Luis Suarez.

http://www.sportsdirectnews.com/premier-league/29945-madrid-mull-switching-attention-to-suarez.php
 
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indianspur said:
it would make literally everyone happy, apart from Bale and Arsenal I suppose but then again its hard pleasing everyone, so tough luck:)
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But what makes you think that would be the end of the matter? No doubt there will be new twists and turns with other clubs supposedly showing interest, so the speculation is bound to continue until either he is sold once and for all or the transfer window has closed.
 
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