Djed Spence

[Muttley]

It impacts anyone who fits that criteria. I do not believe there are exceptions. I always said that ideally, no-one should be rich or famous before they're 25.

Archie Gray is always the exception

 

[thfcsteff]

Archie Gray is always the exception

Amen!!!!!!!!

 

[Bishop]

To me it feels like there's been plenty of players at Spurs over the years who we were told had attitude problems or had to grow up.

To throw some in, irrespective of race or colour:

Hossam Ghali
Mido
Adebayor
Kaboul
Bentley
Bergwyin
Lo Celso
Ndombele
Romero
Stambouli
Bentaleb
Townsend
Dos Santos
Prince Boateng
Taarabt
Atouba


7 out of 16 there are black. So more or less half.

Not sure I agree with you Bish

The vast majority of that list are not white and some I think you're reaching a bit. Stambouli, really? You remember him being cited as someone with attitude problems? I remember him being criticised for not being very good but I honestly don't recall anyone doubting his attitude. The guy who does stand out as matching your criteria is Bentley and the suitability of attitude wasn't ever in doubt, it was super obvious to see that he was a bit of playboy and said so himself.

I think you're misunderstand or maybe not quite understanding. No one questions Romero or GLC's attitude they just think that they had more affinity for playing for Argentina. This is not the same thing.

 

[thfcsteff]

Loved Atouba the first fullback I ever saw trying step overs and dribbling in our penalty box and he was totally amazed when it didn't end well. I think you missed out Gilberto.

I was at Saudi Sportswashing Machine the day Carr showed him 'inside' onto his 'weaker foot' and he curled that 25 yarder into the top corner! Legend!!!!!!
Ohhhhhh ohhh ohh oh ohh ohh!
A-tou-ba
I wanna knooooooooow
How you scored that goal!

 

[Lilbaz]

The vast majority of that list are not white and some I think you're reaching a bit. Stambouli, really? You remember him being cited as someone with attitude problems? I remember him being criticised for not being very good but I honestly don't recall anyone doubting his attitude. The guy who does stand out as matching your criteria is Bentley and the suitability of attitude wasn't ever in doubt, it was super obvious to see that he was a bit of playboy and said so himself.

I think you're misunderstand or maybe not quite understanding. No one questions Romero or GLC's attitude they just think that they had more affinity for playing for Argentina. This is not the same thing.

Something was obviously wrong. Unless you think the coaches working with spence at various clubs were all racist?

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

The vast majority of that list are not white and some I think you're reaching a bit. Stambouli, really? You remember him being cited as someone with attitude problems? I remember him being criticised for not being very good but I honestly don't recall anyone doubting his attitude. The guy who does stand out as matching your criteria is Bentley and the suitability of attitude wasn't ever in doubt, it was super obvious to see that he was a bit of playboy and said so himself.

I think you're misunderstand or maybe not quite understanding. No one questions Romero or GLC's attitude they just think that they had more affinity for playing for Argentina. This is not the same thing.

I certainly question Lo Celso's attitude into playing for us, he had talent but sulked, he may have kicked people but that's in Argentine DNA and I can't remember him busting a gut to get back when we or he lost possession.

 

[Bishop]

I certainly question Lo Celso's attitude into playing for us, he had talent but sulked, he may have kicked people but that's in Argentine DNA and I can't remember him busting a gut to get back when we or he lost possession.

Has Spence been accused of not tracking back? No it's more a vague "behaviour attitude problem." These are not the same things. As I said previously an attitude issue is something that is often applied to young black regardless of the industry. It's more a cultural designation that bleeds into football.

Something was obviously wrong. Unless you think the coaches working with spence at various clubs were all racist?

No I'm not accusing anyone of racism, I did say maybe in this case it's actually true. I just feel uncomfortable with the certainty that people are labelling him with it due to one issue previously with a specific coach.

You can think me paranoid, but there is a pattern of whom tends to be labelled with the bad attitude designation.

 

[Lilbaz]

Has Spence been accused of not tracking back? No it's more a vague "behaviour attitude problem." These are not the same things. As I said previously an attitude issue is something that is often applied to young black regardless of the industry. It's more a cultural designation that bleeds into football.


No I'm not accusing anyone of racism, I did say maybe in this case it's actually true. I just feel uncomfortable with the certainty that people are labelling him with it due to one issue previously with a specific coach.

You can think me paranoid, but there is a pattern of whom tends to be labelled with the bad attitude designation.

It's not one issue though. It's boro, leeds, rennes, genoa and different coaches at spurs.
Everyone wants him to succede here. Everyone is thrilled he's playing well.

 

[parklane1]

A month or two back Ange was asked about Spence and literally said he had come back pre season with a better attitude/matured I can't remember the exact quote. It all adds up along with the loan experiences - And it has zero to do with being black.....

This, there are a few young players who think they have made it before they really do. There was talk around the game that Spence was a very good player but his attitude at times was poor. Its took a while for that to get through to him and it seems to have done so. Doubt it had anything to do with his colour.

 

[Spur of the moment]

It's not one issue though. It's boro, leeds, rennes, genoa and different coaches at spurs.
Everyone wants him to succede here. Everyone is thrilled he's playing well.

Sorry but multiple clubs questioning his attitude doesn't necessarily make it so. Has anyone even heard his side of the story? Could just be a case of 'Give a dog a bad name.'

Either way, kudos to him for proving his doubters wrong.

 

[Lilbaz]

Sorry but multiple clubs questioning his attitude doesn't necessarily make it so. Has anyone even heard his side of the story? Could just be a case of 'Give a dog a bad name.'

Either way, kudos to him for proving his doubters wrong.

If they thought he had a bad name to begin with why take him on?

At the end of the day. Those clubs didn't want him for a reason.

He seems to be doing really well now. Which is great for us.

I've never met the guy. I have no idea what he is like. There did seem to be an issue though.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

If they thought he had a bad name to begin with why take him on?

At the end of the day. Those clubs didn't want him for a reason.

He seems to be doing really well now. Which is great for us.

I've never met the guy. I have no idea what he is like. There did seem to be an issue though.

Farke is bad IMO at calling out younger players
He did it with Edward’s too

 

[Chrissivad]

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