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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Indeed. I could be wrong but the only other alternatives are that Levy from the bottom of him heart believes the club name on the stadium brings us more revenue, the right sponsors have not come in or Levy is asking too much for what company’s want to pay.

Could be all of that and all combined. We value our stadium name as X which could be too high but it should be given the fact its our home and our name is the current flag. As said previously, the bottoms also dropped out of large marketing budgets so likely the perfect storm where we have seen our profile rise and there not being the same money out there as there was. Things change all the time, things like this are always fluid. I have my own sales and marketing company so Its something I see almost daily from small to larger budgets, people are holding onto their cash
 
Because people are gullible

I don’t think that’s right. If you are hungry an a food advert appear on TV it puts the thought in your head that is an option.

Anything else is the same. I doubt I will ever need life insurance but if I ever did and I Google it - AIA would stand out because it the only life insurance company I can name of the top of my head

Advertisement and sponsorship has tremendous value
 
I don’t think that’s right. If you are hungry an a food advert appear on TV it puts the thought in your head that is an option.

Anything else is the same. I doubt I will ever need life insurance but if I ever did and I Google it - AIA would stand out because it the only life insurance company I can name of the top of my head

Advertisement and sponsorship has tremendous value

To me they are.
 
To me they are.

I mean its my bread and butter but I do also have a slight agreement. There is no exact science to it. Those with big budgets are either adding to their already established brand OR trying to enter the market, as many of those entering the market spending big fail as companies as they do succeed which tells its own story about how powerful marketing is and in some cases isn't. Getir went massively big on consumer marketing spend and went under others will write off the value because they are so big its impossible but also not crucial to track. I doubt many sponsors can track the increase from sports sponsorship unless there is a call to action to buy with a code and then you can. Many will attribute natural growth to the marketing but its almost impossible to know for sure.

I did a sponsorship deal with a golfer many moons back and the value was calculated how many times he was seen on TV during the majors the year before when he came 4th in the Masters, so the deal was hefty, we did the deal at less but still a fair chunk of change. That deal was more about us being able to say we sponsor him and use him to hosts clients that liked golf on a specific day in the year than it was the idea people were picking up the phone whilst watching the golf and buying our hotel rooms.

Most of it is ego chasing, host your clients in the box which is included in the deal and see your name all round for the day, deals done in the box more than consumers really linking the two and buying the product is where the value does sit, even then I don't think its to the same number spent on the sponsorship IMO
 
I mean its my bread and butter but I do also have a slight agreement. There is no exact science to it. Those with big budgets are either adding to their already established brand OR trying to enter the market, as many of those entering the market spending big fail as companies as they do succeed which tells its own story about how powerful marketing is and in some cases isn't. Getir went massively big on consumer marketing spend and went under others will write off the value because they are so big its impossible but also not crucial to track. I doubt many sponsors can track the increase from sports sponsorship unless there is a call to action to buy with a code and then you can. Many will attribute natural growth to the marketing but its almost impossible to know for sure.

I did a sponsorship deal with a golfer many moons back and the value was calculated how many times he was seen on TV during the majors the year before when he came 4th in the Masters, so the deal was hefty, we did the deal at less but still a fair chunk of change. That deal was more about us being able to say we sponsor him and use him to hosts clients that liked golf on a specific day in the year than it was the idea people were picking up the phone whilst watching the golf and buying our hotel rooms.

Most of it is ego chasing, host your clients in the box which is included in the deal and see your name all round for the day, deals done in the box more than consumers really linking the two and buying the product is where the value does sit, even then I don't think its to the same number spent on the sponsorship IMO

Its prime function to me is it financed my pension.
 
Maybe a bigger club like United, Barca, Real Madrid etc. I’m not convinced it’s worth more to US than having actual money. If the plan was to have our name be the Tottenham Hotspur stadium all along then that would be more plausible.
I think if you're a rising 'challenger' club you'll probably get more value out of your name being or becoming more familiar than a United Madrid Barca etc by virtue that everybody knows those fudgers already.
 
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Yes.

It isn’t a criticism of Levy at all. Obviously things change over the years. And hopefully we will benefit from a more beneficial deal. Just oddity it has not occurred yet

But he did mention quite a lot about the importance of having a stadium sponsor.

Perhaps with this being in the decade following Arsenal’s moved to the Emirates it indicated that was the key money maker and we have found more profitable alternative routes which negate the need

And uncertainty during Covid probably didn’t help either

Personally I do suspect he feels we are more attractive if a foreign investor can decide on the sponsors themselves

If you had a sponsorship deal with a Saudi firm it could be off putting for Qataris etc…
I think you're correct with Levy's public comments pre stadium build or completion.

Things do move along though.
1. I think our initial naming offering would (in our eyes) been compelling and unique ie the two biggest and most moneyed leagues in the world NFL and PL attached to the stadium and a world class facility...I see a premium there.
2. Maybe we overpriced it BUT also remembering that COVID came along and business confidence was rocked.
3. The more markets we enter the wider the spread of OUR name reaches... obviously that has value. It's like we have access to free sponsorship of all those events. Obviously has value, and has probably been calculated.
4. As this much time has passed it's now looking that a sale of the club becomes a factor. It's adds to the sale price for a buyer to have first chance to commercialise or own brand the stadium as they wish. With no 'naming rights tenant to deal with. This point is enhanced further if the potential owner is from the US...as NFL tie-up (and even an expanded franchise) is so desirable and a big carrot.
5. It's right to question it, because in hard cash terms we have passed on approximately £60-90m in potential revenue. (The irony being 'daniel loves money' so...that needs squaring?)
 
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Which is stupid as half their followers are bots.

Works in some industries not in others. Hotels, Restaurants and Travel can almost exclusively live off cheap marketing via influencers, especially restaurants. Seems like everyone is a food reviewer on Insta these days
 
Works in some industries not in others. Hotels, Restaurants and Travel can almost exclusively live off cheap marketing via influencers, especially restaurants. Seems like everyone is a food reviewer on Insta these days

Or you could just cut out the middle man and start your own channel like fallow. Also get ad revenue.
 
Or you could just cut out the middle man and start your own channel like fallow. Also get ad revenue.

Yep absolutely and a raving success it is too, but also comes after a period of using influencers to build their brand to begin with. They owe alot to the likes of that TopJaw fella.

Anyway...conscious I have monopolised another thread..

COYS
 
We have better commercial revenue than anyone in the prem apart from utd, liverpool and city.
2 teams much bigger than us historically and the other owned by a country.
We've had offers for naming rights but we've decided we're better suited not taking them and prefer keeping the tottenham hotspur stadium.

Not sure what the issue is? Using juve as a bench mark it's £5m a year.
And those teams have won 4 of the last 6 FA Cups and 9 of the last 10 league cups. Seems the only teams winning trophies are the teams that are bigger than us historically and commercially.
 
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