Daniel Levy - Chairman

[Muttley]

Personally, I don't get the hating on Munn. He was a CEO in football in 2009 whilst has experience in other sports like athletics and rugby league. He has plenty of experience and I genuinely believe that he will be a game changer.

What you need to do is hear Munn himself explain his role:

“I look after everything that’s to do with football operations, so whether it’s the technical element through Johan Lange, who is our technical director, or women’s football or the academy led by Simon Davies, through to operations of the training centre.”

Or watch this....

Like most senior leaders he clearly has his layer of management below him that he has put in place. Ange, Lange, Davies and Vilahamn are reporting to him in some of the visible roles. No doubt others operational leaders as well that are important to the club, but less visible to the fans. People should think about how things like our loan execution is being transformed under Munn. The hiring of a guy like Andy Scoulding who is sits between our data science model and has oversight of every loanee from our academy. He makes sure all this performance data comes back in centrally and maintains the players relationships with the young lads at other clubs. Munn has clearly empowered Scoulding to rip those young guys out if the loan is working and re-place them elsewhere.

Munn hasn't even completed 2 years yet, even though he was in role for 10 years in Melbourne to build their successful model. Just like Paratici at Juventus who moved through multiple roles over about 11 years to do the same thing. Just like Fenway Sports Group. They bought Liverpool in 2010 and went through the same transformation. They built out all the roles and infrastructure required to be successful and eventually it happened a few years later. They had implemented the model in other sports and brought it to football. It was only afterwards that we started to realise that behind Klopp was this well oiled machine that someone like Munn built.

Personally, I think fans need to stop being sexy about Munn's role. They should really try to understand it more.

One man's opinion.

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Personally, I don't get the hating on Munn. He was a CEO in football in 2009 whilst has experience in other sports like athletics and rugby league. He has plenty of experience and I genuinely believe that he will be a game changer.

What you need to do is hear Munn himself explain his role:

“I look after everything that’s to do with football operations, so whether it’s the technical element through Johan Lange, who is our technical director, or women’s football or the academy led by Simon Davies, through to operations of the training centre.”

Or watch this....

Like most senior leaders he clearly has his layer of management below him that he has put in place. Ange, Lange, Davies and Vilahamn are reporting to him in some of the visible roles. No doubt others operational leaders as well that are important to the club, but less visible to the fans. People should think about how things like our loan execution is being transformed under Munn. The hiring of a guy like Andy Scoulding who is sits between our data science model and has oversight of every loanee from our academy. He makes sure all this performance data comes back in centrally and maintains the players relationships with the young lads at other clubs. Munn has clearly empowered Scoulding to rip those young guys out if the loan is working and re-place them elsewhere.

Munn hasn't even completed 2 years yet, even though he was in role for 10 years in Melbourne to build their successful model. Just like Paratici at Juventus who moved through multiple roles over about 11 years to do the same thing. Just like Fenway Sports Group. They bought Liverpool in 2010 and went through the same transformation. They built out all the roles and infrastructure required to be successful and eventually it happened a few years later. They had implemented the model in other sports and brought it to football. It was only afterwards that we started to realise that behind Klopp was this well oiled machine that someone like Munn built.

Personally, I think fans need to stop being sexy about Munn's role. They should really try to understand it more.

One man's opinion.

Oh FFS!.....can't you be more dastardly.....muttley?

 

[Muttley]

Oh FFS!.....can't you be more dastardly.....muttley?

Sorry, and by the way this was genuinely not a dig at anyone especially our amazing podcasters who have spoken about Munn in less than a positive light.

I just wanted to challenge and disrupt everyone's thinking around this role. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again when it is not working. Levy has tried a bunch of different operational models over his 25 year tenure. The trophy cabinet informs us of the success of him running of ops.

I'm respecting Munn's leadership more and more. He knows he's built the model around Ange. He says himself that Ange is the most important person at the club. He knows he will have to recalibrate every operational model within the club if that position changes. I can therefore see the reluctance, but at the same time know that he might have to make that tough decision.

Munn talks about removing excuses as one of his key themes. That is what we talk about every day as well with Ange. Most believe that Ange has had very legitimate excuses not to perform in his role. Munn clearly does, but when Ange doesn't anymore then I can see him being ruthless where he needs to be. Hopefully Ange will be successful and prove people like me wrong.

 

[DubSpur]

Sorry, and by the way this was genuinely not a dig at anyone especially our amazing podcasters who have spoken about Munn in less than a positive light.

I just wanted to challenge and disrupt everyone's thinking around this role. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again when it is not working. Levy has tried a bunch of different operational models over his 25 year tenure. The trophy cabinet informs us of the success of him running of ops.

I'm respecting Munn's leadership more and more. He knows he's built the model around Ange. He says himself that Ange is the most important person at the club. He knows he will have to recalibrate every operational model within the club if that position changes. I can therefore see the reluctance, but at the same time know that he might have to make that tough decision.

Munn talks about removing excuses as one of his key themes. That is what we talk about every day as well with Ange. Most believe that Ange has had very legitimate excuses not to perform in his role. Munn clearly does, but when Ange doesn't anymore then I can see him being ruthless where he needs to be. Hopefully Ange will be successful and prove people like me wrong.

If Munn has set up a structure that relies on one person (which I don't believe he has) then there is an issue. The idea should be that we can get a manager with a similar philosophy as Ange (hopefully a bit more balanced between defence and attack), and we don't have to start from scratch every time there is a change of manager. We should be getting a manger that fits us, not changing everything to fit a new manager.

 

[Muttley]

If Munn has set up a structure that relies on one person (which I don't believe he has) then there is an issue. The idea should be that we can get a manager with a similar philosophy as Ange (hopefully a bit more balanced between defence and attack), and we don't have to start from scratch every time there is a change of manager. We should be getting a manger that fits us, not changing everything to fit a new manager.

I don't think he said that the structure relies on one person at all. It's more that Ange (as the point of the spear) relies on everyone else whether it is Andy Scoulding to get the loanee process working, Lange for the external recruitment or the club doctor for the wellness of his players. He is emphasising that the structure is calibrated around Ange. That is how the taxonomy works.

So if a new guy does come in, then those processes get recalibrated. Everything from the wellness coaches down to the loan execution to the external recruitment. If we follow your logic and it's a coach with a similar philosophy, it should be minor adjustments all round.

The key point I picked up when listening to him was about removing the excuses. Once you've done that you can really assess the performance of a manager, players, scout etc.

 

[billyiddo]

If Munn has set up a structure that relies on one person (which I don't believe he has) then there is an issue. The idea should be that we can get a manager with a similar philosophy as Ange (hopefully a bit more balanced between defence and attack), and we don't have to start from scratch every time there is a change of manager. We should be getting a manger that fits us, not changing everything to fit a new manager.

Id imagine it's more so that for a manager to succeed the surrounding structure needs to be focused on what the he requires and they will be working towards that goal - probably talking tweaks to what is required rather than wholesale changes when appointing a new manager.

 

[braineclipse]

Id imagine it's more so that for a manager to succeed the surrounding structure needs to be focused on what the he requires and they will be working towards that goal - probably talking tweaks to what is required rather than wholesale changes when appointing a new manager.

Yes. Get a manager in that fits the overall structure and approach well enough, then adjust somewhat to where the entire club has the required structure in place around the manager.

Still think Ange is a good fit...

 

[ricky2tricky4city]

Sorry, and by the way this was genuinely not a dig at anyone especially our amazing podcasters who have spoken about Munn in less than a positive light.

I just wanted to challenge and disrupt everyone's thinking around this role. Definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again when it is not working. Levy has tried a bunch of different operational models over his 25 year tenure. The trophy cabinet informs us of the success of him running of ops.

I'm respecting Munn's leadership more and more. He knows he's built the model around Ange. He says himself that Ange is the most important person at the club. He knows he will have to recalibrate every operational model within the club if that position changes. I can therefore see the reluctance, but at the same time know that he might have to make that tough decision.

Munn talks about removing excuses as one of his key themes. That is what we talk about every day as well with Ange. Most believe that Ange has had very legitimate excuses not to perform in his role. Munn clearly does, but when Ange doesn't anymore then I can see him being ruthless where he needs to be. Hopefully Ange will be successful and prove people like me wrong.

Don't apologise dude, for a well thought out constructive post. Keep on keeping on.