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Daniel Levy - Chairman

Some that you quoted overspent and some under spent.

To put it simply, this club is a halfway house in every single sense.

Levy is trying to bring in a billionaire simply for the benefit of ENIC, if you do not see that then I am really struggling.

Look at the hotel, he's even said in the latest fan forum that they need to increase the clubs capitol base, and it is evident that that is for infrastructure projects, not for on the pitch matters.

Every thing ENIC have done is to raise the income to the club, and all of the profit has been put straight back in to the benefit of the club.

The numbers have always been public, every single penny has gone towards making the club better.
 
Every thing ENIC have done is to raise the income to the club, and all of the profit has been put straight back in to the benefit of the club.

The numbers have always been public, every single penny has gone towards making the club better.

We agree to disagree.

That is genuinely what I believed in for a long time. I've given up on that id3a long time ago and respect the fact that they wish to make money and that there is nothing I can do about it.

But, i have no shame in saying I wish them gone as soon as possible.
 
I know he is very, very divisive... Maybe I am starting to get old and it is rose tinted specs.

But when we had Rednapp in charge he brought in players like Defoe, Crouch, Krancjar, Keane, Parker, Gallas Cudicini, Friedel... Even fillers like Kaboul, Chimbonda (definenlty not a great one I know), Gudjohnsen, Saha...

Experienced senior pros who weren't expensive but made a serious difference and complimented the young base of guys like Walker, Bale, Modric...

And course we already had Woodgate, Jenas, Lennon, Dawson, King...

There was an older spine and I feel it greatly benefits your younger long term investments to play amongst guys who have been there and done that.
 
Do you honestly believe that this club is squeaky clean?

There is a reason why Joe Lewis silently stepped aside.

Yes times have changed with billionaires and nationally owned clubs and granted,
poorly run clubs. However, this club has refused to go with those times of fighting for trophies. I don't expect the club to pour billions and billions. I just expect a football club that chooses winning trophies over equity.

I make it abundantly clear that I see the absolute opposite of that with spurs under ENIC.

Do I see Levy as a good employer and dare I say it, even a good person given the company that he holds? Yes, i say that honestly and especially given the amount that the club gave to charity over the past 25 years. Especially through the good work that they did through the Tottenham Hotspur foundation.

But for crying out loud, we have gone from a club that famously won 13 cup finals out of 16 (1901 to 1999) to winning just 1 out of 6 under ENICs stewardship (2001 to 2025). Also, there has been so many semifinals and quarter finals which the club has failed to turn up to.

This club is as clean as any, from environment impact, to living wages, to how we treat ex players, to charity contributions, pick a metric you actually want to be measured by, and we are typically up there.

Do I think Joe Lewis was squeaky clean? no (all Billionaires are not good people), but lets be clear, in the cartoon villains' comparison, he doesn't hold a candle to Middle East ownership or RA, or even Private Equity ownership.

You are mixing up short term vs. long term, Spurs ownership has never made a decision to not invest in the future of the club, the training ground, the stadium, the constant re-investment (no dividends, no cash outflow) is all designed to generate more money, to spend more money (why would that be a fudging objective if not to win things). They literally could have spend half the money on the stadium if they didn't care about the club, and if they had any intention of making good on that equity.

Has the approach been successful in pure trophy terms? no. But again, lets not cherry pick, Spurs has only won 17 finals in 144 years, it's not some grand fall off. And the club not turning up to finals/semis/quarter, completely agree, something is wrong, even just statistically, but I'd argue like today, if we keep getting to those positions but don't carry it across the line, is that on owners? maybe, I'd argue Ange probably shouldn't have been in charge for today's game, but then fans would have bitched about that as well.
 
They mostly are, but they had a 20+ year headstart of CL/Top 4 revenue, plus built their stadium years before ours. That said, can you imagine the commentary if we were in their position and bought no one this January (opps, no need to imagine, we have done that and what was said, wasn't, we are well run)

I don't think I have ever seen them 15th at this stage of a season though
 
Every thing ENIC have done is to raise the income to the club, and all of the profit has been put straight back in to the benefit of the club.

The numbers have always been public, every single penny has gone towards making the club better.
So far
Thats all factual and correct
It wont stop people speculating or even lying to suit a view they may or may not have Though
 
We agree to disagree.

That is genuinely what I believed in for a long time. I've given up on that id3a long time ago and respect the fact that they wish to make money and that there is nothing I can do about it.

But, i have no shame in saying I wish them gone as soon as possible.
Show how ENIC haven't put every penny back into the club. The accounts are there for anyone to look at so you can easily show how they haven't.
I won't hold my breath waiting for you to show the proof, the same as with everyone else that made the same claim, got asked to show the proof and still haven't.
 
I’ve never seen them take money out
Ever
And I do look at the finances every season
It’s the same when Batman said they had taken land of the club.,. I’ve never seen that either and that would go through the land registry so it’s all publicly available info

These people live in a world where evidence isn't important and accusations stick despite a lack of it.
 
These people live in a world where evidence isn't important and accusations stick despite a lack of it.
Feels like that
I’d love a real debate and discussion but when ive asked the answer is I’m wrong or it’s out there but can’t be found…
I’ll repeat what I’ve said previously I think most sane fans would love new owners but creating a story that has no evidence behind it to tarnish them is a bit like an episode of Brass Eye
 
How are you feeling you deluded mug?
Still madly and deeply in love with the all encompassing daniel levy?
Yeah thought as much.
And by the way, it was big Ange that landed Tel not your little crooked, corrupt greedy c@!# of a supposed chairman.
Well, that's not very nice, is it?

Note that he's not "my little crooked, corrupt greedy c@!# of a supposed chairman".

He keeps ploughing all the money we* raise, back into the hands of those signing players, which is what I want him to do.

I would like those signing players to find some gems with real experience e.g. aged ~25 with 100 CL appearances but keen to come to the Prem, already good but with real growth potential, rather than only buying children BUT that isn't his call.









*Levy
 
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