• Dear Guest, Please note that adult content is not permitted on this forum. We have had our Google ads disabled at times due to some posts that were found from some time ago. Please do not post adult content and if you see any already on the forum, please report the post so that we can deal with it. Adult content is allowed in the glory hole - you will have to request permission to access it. Thanks, scara

Daniel Levy - Chairman

Yiddo said:
361240851_687655053406841_7880899388869337009_n.jpg



Not sure how accurate that is but apparently Levy doesn't back his managers.
Click to expand...
The problem isn't how much we spend on transfers. The problem is lurching from one type of manager to another, thus ensuring lots of money is wasted on players that do not fit the new manager's style of football (spending almost half of our yearly net transfer budget on Porro is recent evidence of this). That coupled with letting the recruitment structure at the club from the DoF down to the youth scouts go to absolute brick also doesn't help of course.
 
Finney Is Back said:
The problem isn't how much we spend on transfers. The problem is lurching from one type of manager to another, thus ensuring lots of money is wasted on players that do not fit the new manager's style of football (spending almost half of our yearly net transfer budget on Porro is recent evidence of this). That coupled with letting the recruitment structure at the club from the DoF down to the youth scouts go to absolute brick also doesn't help of course.
Click to expand...

Agree here, the changes in management and wrong appointments killed us more than any transfer policy IMO. Add Ndombele and Lo Celso purchased for Poch before the sacking. All adds to where we are.

But maybe optimistically, when Munn joins I'm hopeful that someone solely focused on the entire football structure will align the club in that the youth is at least playing towards at least trying to get into the first team fold. Meaning we strengthen where we need, give youth a chance in areas we feel there is talent and at the very least play a same style so it is easier to jump.

Speaking to my mate that's apparently Munns number 1 task in the medium long term, better align the club. Let's hope it happens and he is given the time to.
 
Grays_1890 said:
Agree here, the changes in management and wrong appointments killed us more than any transfer policy IMO. Add Ndombele and Lo Celso purchased for Poch before the sacking. All adds to where we are.

But maybe optimistically, when Munn joins I'm hopeful that someone solely focused on the entire football structure will align the club in that the youth is at least playing towards at least trying to get into the first team fold. Meaning we strengthen where we need, give youth a chance in areas we feel there is talent and at the very least play a same style so it is easier to jump.

Speaking to my mate that's apparently Munns number 1 task in the medium long term, better align the club. Let's hope it happens and he is given the time to.
Click to expand...
Fingers crossed, though personally I see Munn as a weak appointment. The only hope that I hold is the fact that Paratici did a HUGE amount to turn the club around while he was here and he still seems to be involved so perhaps Munn is a patsy appointed just to cover the time that Paratici is banned for and then he can slot back in at the top.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Fingers crossed, though personally I see Munn as a weak appointment. The only hope that I hold is the fact that Paratici did a HUGE amount to turn the club around while he was here and he still seems to be involved so perhaps Munn is a patsy appointed just to cover the time that Paratici is banned for and then he can slot back in at the top.
Click to expand...

I don't think it's weak personally and I think his role will be to a higher level than Fab, but I do think it was one to give Levy one singular point of contact to make accountable for the football, someone who is not him.

I don't see that as a bad thing TBH as it gets Levy away from that side, he can concentrate on the commercial which is his stronger field.

I think the club needs a fresh pair of eyes on the footballing side and it will be good to have sole concentration on it.
 
Finney Is Back said:
Fingers crossed, though personally I see Munn as a weak appointment. The only hope that I hold is the fact that Paratici did a HUGE amount to turn the club around while he was here and he still seems to be involved so perhaps Munn is a patsy appointed just to cover the time that Paratici is banned for and then he can slot back in at the top.
Click to expand...
Why do you see it as a weak appointment? He was doing well in the City Football Group and they usually get their appointments spot on.
 
I’d be surprised if any of us can make any sort of accurate judgement on Munn one way or another. I don’t really know what his specific job description/responsibilities are and have no idea how he’s performing them. I know fudge all about him to be honest.

My understanding is that he’s over the footballing side of things. I guess the only way I can judge that is in a year or two when I see where we are on that front.
 
DeanoAustin said:
I’d be surprised if any of us can make any sort of accurate judgement on Munn one way or another. I don’t really know what his specific job description/responsibilities are and have no idea how he’s performing them. I know fudge all about him to be honest.

My understanding is that he’s over the footballing side of things. I guess the only way I can judge that is in a year or two when I see where we are on that front.
Click to expand...
Are you new here? There are probably already 17 disparate and conflicting 100% accurate assessments of him already.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Ol' Joe Lewis is being done for insider trading :D:D:D

https://twitter.com/x/status/1683958068395102208

Will they take his dear pal Levy down with him as well? Who knows, but we're one step nearer to liberation - GHod bless these United States. ;)
Click to expand...
Careful what you wish for, for every City owner there is a Mike Ashley/Peter Risdale etc…. Other then the fact it would hurt spurs, I do wonder what these anti Enic/Levy peeps would do if they do eventually go and it proceeds with Spurs getting relegated or going bust, think they would still be glad Levy is not there?
 
demotw said:
Careful what you wish for, for every City owner there is a Mike Ashley/Peter Risdale etc…. Other then the fact it would hurt spurs, I do wonder what these anti Enic/Levy peeps would do if they do eventually go and it proceeds with Spurs getting relegated or going bust, think they would still be glad Levy is not there?
Click to expand...

Or an al-Sawiris (Villa), FSG (Liverpool), Bloom (Brighton)...many of them far better owners than this lot. Even a Boehly wouldn't be bad - they spent a billion and got Poch, they'll turn around.

Yes, there are worse owners too. But marinating in general mediocrity and false hope for 22 years under a couple of deadweights just because one is scared of 'doing a Leeds' is unreasonable, imo. These two play on our fans' fears of that outcome - imo, it's time to think big, not fear the unknown.

Thanks to the SDNY for starting the ball rolling on that. :) Wonder if Lewis passes the laughable fit and proper persons test if convicted?
 
demotw said:
Careful what you wish for, for every City owner there is a Mike Ashley/Peter Risdale etc…. Other then the fact it would hurt spurs, I do wonder what these anti Enic/Levy peeps would do if they do eventually go and it proceeds with Spurs getting relegated or going bust, think they would still be glad Levy is not there?
Click to expand...
That would be Levy's fault for selling to the wrong person.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Or an al-Sawiris (Villa), FSG (Liverpool), Bloom (Brighton)...many of them far better owners than this lot. Even a Boehly wouldn't be bad - they spent a billion and got Poch, they'll turn around.

Yes, there are worse owners too. But marinating in general mediocrity and false hope for 22 years under a couple of deadweights just because one is scared of 'doing a Leeds' is unreasonable, imo. These two play on our fans' fears of that outcome - imo, it's time to think big, not fear the unknown.

Thanks to the SDNY for starting the ball rolling on that. :) Wonder if Lewis passes the laughable fit and proper persons test if convicted?
Click to expand...

Are you sure we support the same club? Hardly general mediocrity. Obviously the lack of trophies is a stick to beat Levy with but if you graph our league finishes over our history, Levy has overseen the most consistent spell in the upper reaches of the top division. If he's overseen mediocrity then anything other than mediocrity is the exception rather than the rule.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Are you sure we support the same club? Hardly general mediocrity. Obviously the lack of trophies is a stick to beat Levy with but if you graph our league finishes over our history, Levy has overseen the most consistent spell in the upper reaches of the top division. If he's overseen mediocrity then anything other than mediocrity is the exception rather than the rule.
Click to expand...

When they took over, we were mid-table. We are currently...mid-table.

Prior to them we had won 25 major trophies. Since they took over 22 long years ago, we have won 1 (one) - a record equal to West Ham and Wigan Athletic.

Mediocrity in my book. A spell in between where Poch gave us false hope, but we know how that went.

I'll give you our higher league finishes, but you get no medals for 5th place. Nor 4th.
 
DubaiSpur said:
When they took over, we were mid-table. We are currently...mid-table.

Prior to them we had won 25 major trophies. Since they took over 22 long years ago, we have won 1 (one) - a record equal to West Ham and Wigan Athletic.

Mediocrity in my book. A spell in between where Poch gave us false hope, but we know how that went.

I'll give you our higher league finishes, but you get no medals for 5th place. Nor 4th.
Click to expand...

For the 11 years before they took over (and the first 5 of their reign), we didn't finish in the top 6. I think we've finished top 6 in something like 15 out of 18 seasons. So that's hardly overseeing mediocrity or else we're a club with a history of almost unbroken history of mediocrity in the league and worse.

Fair point on the trophies but there is context there too.

There's a lot to criticise Levy/ENIC on but throwing out stuff that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny doesn't help the case.
 
DeanoAustin said:
For the 11 years before they took over (and the first 5 of their reign), we didn't finish in the top 6. I think we've finished top 6 in something like 15 out of 18 seasons. So that's hardly overseeing mediocrity or else we're a club with a history of almost unbroken history of mediocrity in the league and worse.

Fair point on the trophies but there is context there too.

There's a lot to criticise Levy/ENIC on but throwing out stuff that doesn't stand up to any scrutiny doesn't help the case.
Click to expand...

Fair, but like I said - you get no medals for finishing 6th. Or 5th.

It's mediocrity spruced up by the occasional cup run that went nowhere and the one period of magic under Poch, *because of* Poch.

In our history before ENIC, I'd wager no one spent time remembering the years we finished 6th but winless as more memorable than the time we won things - to me, that is what separates the great from the mediocre.
 
DubaiSpur said:
Fair, but like I said - you get no medals for finishing 6th. Or 5th.

It's mediocrity spruced up by the occasional cup run that went nowhere and the one period of magic under Poch, *because of* Poch.

In our history before ENIC, I'd wager no one spent time remembering the years we finished 6th but winless as more memorable than the time we won things - to me, that is what separates the great from the mediocre.
Click to expand...
The amount of times we've been down to the last 4 we should've won a couple more trophies. What you're basically saying is if we had a little more luck in finals (and SFs) then Levy would be great, but luck went against us so he's crap.
 
DubSpur said:
The amount of times we've been down to the last 4 we should've won a couple more trophies. What you're basically saying is if we had a little more luck in finals (and SFs) then Levy would be great, but luck went against us so he's crap.
Click to expand...

That's where me and @DubaiSpur have debated for ages but I kinda weirdly respect his all or nothing take, at least he hasn't sold out that, even if I don't agree, that and it's always fair and interesting debate.

But for me too many nuances and footballing factors for all those SFs and Finals to be just one man's fault IMO. Collectively, we have gone to bed drunk and woken up having taken a drunken turf out in the same bed. The Pompey SF being a classic....player ego over going out and doing the business.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back