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thfcsteff said:
Right, OK, but at a certain point its one person's fault.
One manager asked for refreshment of the squad and some players moved on, another has possibly done the same (Mourinho's contract won't allow him to speak clearly I'm sure).
So IF this is THE reason (and I am not convinced it is the main one TBH), then inextricably the blame lies with one person?
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Not really no, the players who stunk the place out during Pochs last season ( and as i keep saying i did not want Poch sacked when he was) are the same ones who are doing it now. Jose managed to get them playing for a while but sadly they reverted to the same they did under Poch. They need replacing of course but they are so many of them it can not be done all at once or overnight.
 
Baleforce said:
for me, traditionally, 4 is a CM and the second CB is 6
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True. That would mean Toby (4), Sanchez (6), Doherty (2). I spent the last few minutes trying to remember who our No.3 is without checking. Answer is we don't have one, Rose wasn't given the squad number and no one has taken it.
 
parklane1 said:
Not really no, the players who stunk the place out during Pochs last season ( and as i keep saying i did not want Poch sacked when he was) are the same ones who are doing it now. Jose managed to get them playing for a while but sadly they reverted to the same they did under Poch. They need replacing of course but they are so many of them it can not be done all at once or overnight.
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That's the painful part, Getting rid of them all is gonna be tough. I am sure we will be hearing all the same excuses this summer about not being able to buy and sell until after the Euros etc. and how we missed out on X because we needed to sell Y first.
 
dingdongo said:
That's the painful part, Getting rid of them all is gonna be tough. I am sure we will be hearing all the same excuses this summer about not being able to buy and sell until after the Euros etc. and how we missed out on X because we needed to sell Y first.
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It's as predictable as the Sun raising in the sky every morning.
 
dingdongo said:
That's the painful part, Getting rid of them all is gonna be tough. I am sure we will be hearing all the same excuses this summer about not being able to buy and sell until after the Euros etc. and how we missed out on X because we needed to sell Y first.
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Do not disagree with you, the Covid situation has been tragic for so many reasons but i am sure that it has/will effect our outlay this summer more then it would have done.
 
parklane1 said:
Not really no, the players who stunk the place out during Pochs last season ( and as i keep saying i did not want Poch sacked when he was) are the same ones who are doing it now. Jose managed to get them playing for a while but sadly they reverted to the same they did under Poch. They need replacing of course but they are so many of them it can not be done all at once or overnight.
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Out of curiosity, who are those players in your opinion?
 
billyiddo said:
hindsights a wonderful thing - neither Rose nor Walker were that highly rated before they stepped up under Poch. Would love to see the likes of Tanganga and Rodon step up similarly under Mourinho
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Hadn’t Kyle Walker won PFA young player and been team of the year before hand?
would be great to see the current two step up as you say
Maybe Bogle from Sheffield can take that trusted path too (@Finney Is Back)
 
Bedfordspurs said:
It was 2012 I think
At Spurs
But he wasn’t IMO unproven. He made his engine debut then too IIRC
He did get better under Poch though
Big he also had a better CB inside him
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Walker and Rose were clearly athletes suited for the FB role, Walker had brick positioning and Rose was rash (a card hazard)
- I'd argue Poch got both of them to fix the mental issues for a while
- Walker has remained a top FB, Rose only held his peak for a very short time
 
DeanoAustin said:
Out of curiosity, who are those players in your opinion?
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Well i guess some will disagree but a lot of those players were either passed it, going through the motions, lack of effort, not taking responsibility for the situation etc and included the likes of Toby, Alli, Dier, Sanchez, Aurier ( although he seems to have adjusted that). Those same players who could not win a game for Poch started the season winning for Jose but have gone backwards again.

Most fans on here seem to want a BIG clear out of players because of those reasons, thankfully we have bought some good ones but once again we have suffered there with injurys to some of them ( lo Celso, Reggy to name two) Rodon looks like he has the ability to earn a place, Hojiberg is a great signing, Doherty is still trying to settle into a new way of playing for him, we need to get Skipp back but Norwich want him for another year so we will have to see how that goes.

If we get Sess back as well we may only need a couple of GOOD signings in the summer ( keeper and a CB is a must). We shall see.
 
parklane1 said:
Well i guess some will disagree but a lot of those players were either passed it, going through the motions, lack of effort, not taking responsibility for the situation etc and included the likes of Toby, Alli, Dier, Sanchez, Aurier ( although he seems to have adjusted that). Those same players who could not win a game for Poch started the season winning for Jose but have gone backwards again.

Most fans on here seem to want a BIG clear out of players because of those reasons, thankfully we have bought some good ones but once again we have suffered there with injurys to some of them ( lo Celso, Reggy to name two) Rodon looks like he has the ability to earn a place, Hojiberg is a great signing, Doherty is still trying to settle into a new way of playing for him, we need to get Skipp back but Norwich want him for another year so we will have to see how that goes.

If we get Sess back as well we may only need a couple of GOOD signings in the summer ( keeper and a CB is a must). We shall see.
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I do think we must get a left-sided CB. And I'd like one mire creative midfielder if Lo Celso isn't fit and Dele is going. And Ings; I think if JM is the manager we will go all out for Ings.
 
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