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Daniel Levy - Chairman
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
WowI just checked Poch's 50th game in charge at Spurs, 8 of the starting XI were from the AVB/Sherwood squad and a further 5 were on the bench...
Another excuse we can cross off the list
Who was that vs?
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
The 1-1 draw with Goons in 2016 was Poch’s 50th PL game, according to https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mau...in_id=148&liga=&wettbewerb_id=GB1&trainer_id=
Pochettino’s first 50 PL games at Spurs
Won:24 Drawn:13 Lost:13 For:78 Against:63
Mourinho’s first 50 PL games at Spurs
Won:23 Drawn:12 Lost:15 For:80 Against:57
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thfcsteff
George Hunt
Right, OK, but at a certain point its one person's fault.
One manager asked for refreshment of the squad and some players moved on, another has possibly done the same (Mourinho's contract won't allow him to speak clearly I'm sure).
So IF this is THE reason (and I am not convinced it is the main one TBH), then inextricably the blame lies with one person?
90291Spur
Paul Walsh
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
At this crucial moment for the club. I can't help but remember Levy's two most revelatory moments in the documentary.
Watching the Son goal and calling Mourinho one of the two world class managers in the Premier League.
The man has very little football knowledge and should not be making football decisions.
If ever there was a time to bring back a properly empowered Director of Football, it is now.
Get someone in. Not "I don't like January because it difficult" Steve Hitchen, instead someone capable of working when things get difficult.
They take a few months, and make a decision on who the next manager is in the summer.
Levy has had his shot of picking managers and failed over and over again.
Even he should recognise that. He's appointed 8 with a 75% failure rate.
Watching the Son goal and calling Mourinho one of the two world class managers in the Premier League.
The man has very little football knowledge and should not be making football decisions.
If ever there was a time to bring back a properly empowered Director of Football, it is now.
Get someone in. Not "I don't like January because it difficult" Steve Hitchen, instead someone capable of working when things get difficult.
They take a few months, and make a decision on who the next manager is in the summer.
Levy has had his shot of picking managers and failed over and over again.
Even he should recognise that. He's appointed 8 with a 75% failure rate.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Is that the right team?
@Bedfordspurs
His 2nd season was 15/16 and his 50th league game would have been the 12th game of that season, no? The 1-1 draw away to
Arsenal on 8/11/15 - the one Steve's posted is from a year later.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/34691295
I made a mistake though, 4 subs not 5 were at the club before Poch arrived.
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StephenH
David Ginola
I know but he scores and makes so many of their goals!
Thus the utter shock when Benteke scored that excellent goal AND an assist from Townsend
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Yeah that’s what I wondered when he posted that team
Fwiw I'm not trying to compare the managers just trying to show that dealing with overhang from previous squads isn't really an excuse.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
What stands out though in the teams is the dead wood wasn’t there in Poch 50th game
He has got rid of his former vice captains by then.
Yeah of course - he done what was required.
He didn't give Adebayor Kaboul and Lennon new contracts - he had long replaced them in the team by this point.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
He did make them vice captains though
So he thought they could help him
And then found out they were bad apples
Kane and mason had a scrap with two of them. I’d love to see that fight now
I do think the contract thing is a red herring
I mean if we didn’t give out those contracts the players would have left for free leaving a bigger hole arguably.
Now they have some value to the club but could be key go for free of the club desired (and they were wanted)
He did, but where were they 50 games later? Frozen out/replaced in the team - options available to any manager.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Yep
It was a big thing Poch did
I guess we don’t have the bad apples here of the same type
I don’t believe anyone is rebelling behind the scenes for example
Not the bad apples are just rotten players that need refreshing. And clearly there had been a huge under estimation of how to get rid of them
I'm not going to argue the finer details mate, bad apples v rotten apples whatever is by the by - each manager coming in to a team has to work with what he's got to some degree and in this case we're talking similar level of churn for each. You either make it work or you don't
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Yep
You have to make it work or you fail
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
Ah apologies, posted the wrong 1-1 drawn with Goons
What a formidable team we had back then...
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Look at the defenceAh apologies, posted the wrong 1-1 drawn with Goons
What a formidable team we had back then...
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