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Cheatski are still scum

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20m people in Russia still living in abject poverty due to the Oligarch's... as SSN say though at least he put Chelsea on the map!
 
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Shocking, really. Then again you wouldn't expect them to pay anything negative about their "product". They don't give a fudge about right, wrong, politics or the future of football as long as they keep making money.

Pathetic excuses for journalists, put in place by a knowledgeable and well spoken real journalist.
 
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That.

Was absolutely fudging beautiful to watch.
 
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Shocking, really. Then again you wouldn't expect them to pay anything negative about their "product". They don't give a fudge about right, wrong, politics or the future of football as long as they keep making money.

Pathetic excuses for journalists, put in place by a knowledgeable and well spoken real journalist.

Completely agree with you, the whole 'b-b-b-but Mathew, look at what he has done for Chelsea' which is followed up by the pathetic attempt to get the viewers on their side with "and not just Chelsea, but also English football as a whole', benefited English football? Love, it's called trickle down effect for a reason, it trickles down, not floods down.
 
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They wont invite him on again.

I did enjoy that.
 
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Matthew Syed, what an absolute legend. There needs to be more journalists like him... The fumbling SKY staff don't even know what he's talking about, yet still argue!

Pathetic.
 
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All that from a man who works for Rupert Murdoch. Lovely principles.

Sure, everything he said was correct. But did it have a place in that particular debate? No, no it did not.
 
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Lets face it, CFC are everything thats wrong with football and Sky love them, Sky backed by Murdoch with all his dodgy dealings, a great alliance
 
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All that from a man who works for Rupert Murdoch. Lovely principles.

Sure, everything he said was correct. But did it have a place in that particular debate? No, no it did not.

It absolutely has a place in that debate, people just aren't used to hearing it. If we're talking about the Abramovich era at Chelsea then a pretty good starting point is the reason why he bought the club in the first place.
 
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the state of the SSN presenters here, embarrassing


That was so intellectually above what any SSN presenter can deal with. Brilliant.
 
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All that from a man who works for Rupert Murdoch. Lovely principles.

Sure, everything he said was correct. But did it have a place in that particular debate? No, no it did not.

Of course it had a place in that debate. It's the crux of the matter for goodness sake.

Absolutely loved watching that, and watching the sheer stupidity of the presenters and Cascarino.
 
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20m people in Russia still living in abject poverty due to the Oligarch's... as SSN say though at least he put Chelsea on the map!

Alan Sugar exploited football and Spurs just to sell his sh!te Amstrad satellite boxes....imagine how many British households suffered as a result :)

now we cant fcuking get rid of him off our tv screens!!
 
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All that from a man who works for Rupert Murdoch. Lovely principles.

Sure, everything he said was correct. But did it have a place in that particular debate? No, no it did not.

What was the overall context of the debate?

I don't think there's enough of this kind of thing in football debates in general, way too heavy on the easy journalism. But since I don't know the context of this I don't know if it fit in here or not.
 
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My new favourite Journo.. Anyone know where he writes

Is he on twitter, might just join just to follow him
 
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Just realised, he is the table tennis guy
 
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Syed has been writing for the Times for a long time, since shortly after he retired as a table tennis player or possibly before. He's often insightful, except when discussing sexual goings on in the Olympic Village.

Buck stops here in the story of Roman Abramovich

It was kind of Bruce Buck to explain just what a benign influence Roman Abramovich, his boss, has exerted upon football these past ten years.

Gracing these pages on Monday, Buck talked glowingly about Abramovich’s “passion for the game” and about how Chelsea “engage in hundreds of community activities at home and abroad”.

But he didn’t stop there. Buoyed, no doubt, by the ecstasies of being chairman of such a progressive and enlightened institution, he ventured into Mother Teresa territory to bring home to readers precisely why Abramovich has put his time and money into a football club in southwest London.

Those of us who thought it may have been about his fear of retribution from Vladimir Putin for his part in the rigged privatisations of the Boris Yeltsin era have had it wrong all these years. The very idea that Abramovich had been keen to buy a high-profile British asset as a shield against possible arrest, a theory bolstered by evidence in the Boris Berezovsky lawsuit last year, was not even mentioned by the American.

No, according to the lawyer who was paid to advise Abramovich on acquisitions in the former Soviet Union before being appointed chairman of Chelsea, the Russian billionaire is all about heart. All about passion.

In particular, he is about “building something sustainable, using the name of Chelsea Football Club to have a positive impact on the young and disadvantaged, and making a difference to communities, not just in London, but around the world”.

You may detect an undercurrent of sarcasm in my tone so far, but, whichever way you look at it, Buck is a remarkable character. For years he has attempted to act as the rational, sane, morally uplifting face of Chelsea Football Club. He has been the man who has talked to the press, sometimes even to the cameras, when worries about the moral basis of Chelsea have been at their most intense.

With his emollient persona and quiet demeanour, he has been of huge value to his boss. If an avuncular chap such as Bruce is so visibly involved with Chelsea, people wonder, why should we be concerned about the origins of the money that is bankrolling the operation?

But on Monday in this newspaper, Buck chanced his arm, to my mind just a little too much. He attempted to present a portrait of Chelsea so utterly out of kilter with reality, so carefully idealised, that many people finally saw through the mirage. And they began to focus, perhaps for the first time, on the man who has become Abramovich’s lightning rod.

The lack of context in Buck’s portrait of Chelsea was breathtaking. After all, the money that Abramovich has lavished on Chelsea, and which the American was so keen to eulogise about, was gained in the most grotesque of circumstances. Don’t take my word for it. Jonathan Sumption, the QC for Abramovich in his trial with Berezovsky, admitted as much in open court last year.

The story is simple. In return for handing Abramovich and other oligarchs the mineral wealth of the Russian people at a fraction of its true price, Yeltsin was given a multimillion-pound loan and the use of leading television channels for propaganda in the 1996 presidential campaign. Paul Gregory, the economist, described the quid pro quo as “the largest single heist in corporate history and a lasting emblem of the corruption of modern Russia”.

Abramovich spent much of this on extravagant playthings, including a fleet of yachts, helicopters, his own private Boeing and homes around the world. Chelsea, however, were about kyrsha, the Russian word for protection. It was a purchase motivated not by passion, but by careful political calculation.

The idea of Abramovich — the man who emerged triumphant from the bloody aluminium wars — as a romantic, dewy-eyed football fan is beneath contempt.

Chelsea do many admirable things. Buck is right to talk about the charitable work that is undertaken by many Premier League outfits, his own club included. But that should not obscure the wider context in which Chelsea operate, and their underlying financial basis.

The real question is: what does Buck have to say about the origin of the money that is paying his salary? It is all well and good arguing that the Russian’s desire is “to build an institution that will provide everlasting joy and pride to Chelsea fans”, but what about how Abramovich boosted his shareholding in Sibneft, the oil producer, by allegedly manipulating wage payments in order to take over worker-controlled stock and conducting a closed share issue in one of its most profitable subsidiaries?

The purpose of a free press is to expose these things. It is about penetrating the bulls*** and shining a light on the true basis of relationships.

The reality is that Abramovich used Chelsea as a pawn in a game of far bigger stakes. It is certainly true — as many Chelsea fans point out — that he is not the first dubious owner to have piled into football, but that is no reason to refrain from highlighting the truth about his past. Neither is it a reason to back off those who surround him, and who have made a living defending him.

Buck likes to present Abramovich (and, by extension, himself) as an enlightened, progressive figure. He argues that the Russian has been a huge force for good in English football. The truth is precisely the opposite.

Abramovich has been, for a decade now, an insidious presence in our national game.
 
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And a brief excerpt from Bucks article:

Ten years on, Chelsea have changed. But whatever moniker given to us by others, we’re still Chelsea.

The Abramovich Revolution has really been the Abramovich Evolution. He has built probably the best training facilities in Europe. He has invested millions in establishing a world-class squad and a superb academy, one of the elite youth development programmes in Europe. He brought the Old Boys back to the fold, and every week the club engages in hundreds of community activities at home and abroad.

Why? Simple. For the thrill and excitement of playing, and hopefully beating, Barça in the Nou Camp. While at the same time building something sustainable, using the name of Chelsea Football Club to have a positive impact on the young and disadvantaged, and making a difference to communities, not just in London, but around the world.

:ross:
 
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the state of the SSN presenters here, embarrassing

I know it's already been quoted and spoke about but fudge me, fair play to him going on Sky Sports News and telling it like it is. Hilarious putting him next to whoever the fudge Tony is, who is clearly not the sharpest tool in the box.
 
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