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Another shooting in Murica
- Thread starter Roy1983
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monkeybarry
Jack Jull
Which state was this?
monkeybarry
Jack Jull
So, the "well organised armed malitia" decided to use a car to kill people.
I guess its not a surprise - the inconvenient truth that America was founded by terrorists now adopted modern terrorisms weapon of choice
I guess its not a surprise - the inconvenient truth that America was founded by terrorists now adopted modern terrorisms weapon of choice
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
15 thoughts and prayers along with 10 Facebook likes can be traded in for decent health care I heard.
Alaric
Erik Edman
While I don't doubt that guns sales will go up, I thought this was because people will be (falsely) convinced that the U.S. government is now going to do something about gun control, so they rush out and get guns number 23 through 30 while they still can. The other thing that usually increases after these sorts of mass shootings is donations to the NRA.
Mr_B
Niko Kranjcar
the only gun legislation in congress currently is to make it easier for people to buy silencers which of course would have resulted in more deaths in vegas without the load ratatat sound of an automatic weapon, and apparently the NRA have developed an algorithm which works out how long they have to endure gun legislation cries after major incidents, according to their data, this tragedy will last 8 days before people forget about it and move on to something else.
Daisuk
Dimitar Berbatov
It's a big country, but those stats are fudging nuts. How the hell do the NRA explain them? The good old "guns don't kill, people do" line?
Last time I checked (some time ago), the line was that most of those events happen with the gun in the hands of someone who has it illegally. Either by stealing it or buying it on the black market. They probably include falsified statements on application in there too though.
braineclipse
Steve Sedgley
That argument obviously doesn't hold up to any real scrutiny. (Not saying you believe it does).
Ultimately that doesn't really matter as it's more about emotional arguments and having plausible comebacks. Not actually an intellectual pursuit of truth. And more about a public opinion face to a big industry lobbying cause than a real grassroots movement.
No, I don't buy it at all. That said, if I lived in the US I'd own a gun because anyone breaking into my house/car probably would too. Doesn't help the situation at all but fudge not being armed when criminals are.
The real problem now, IMO, is how do you get from the current situation to one where guns are reduced, controlled and eventually outlawed?
I think it was the Freakonomics guys that studied the effect of introducing gun control once there are so many out there. It doesn't paint a pretty picture.
Rock Strongo
dodgy Dave Goosegog
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
They are protection though, aren't they.
If someone breaks into my home, I'd rather be the one bringing a gun to a knife fight than the other way around.
How did gun ownership in Australia compare as this is the example that is mainly used when talking about banning them?
Rock Strongo
dodgy Dave Goosegog
But you'll be bringing a gun to a gunfight, and you end up dead because you aren't fudging insane and ready to shoot a person just because they want your TV.
I'd waste my money on stun grenades instead, how's that for a scenario? Stun the perp, kick his ass and hand him over to the cops all tight up on the back of yer pickup truck.