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Ange in or out?

Ange in or out?

  • In

    Votes: 85 73.3%

  • Out

    Votes: 31 26.7%
  • Total voters
    116
veryoldspur said:
You are of course entitled to your opinion, but every stat has proved his first 18 months to be an absolute disaster
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Absolutely disaster is a description and subjective. It's not been proven. It's not backed by stats. You can say that being below a certain league position, points per game or whatever is an absolute disaster, but that then still is subjective as to where one puts the threshold between disaster and absolute disaster.

Personally it's been neither a disaster or an absolute disaster.
 
thfcsteff said:
Arteta is FIVE YEARS into his job. It took him THREE to actually make a half-decent tilt at the title. At this stage in his second season, Arteta’s Arsenal were in 13th place with 20 points. Whether Postecoglu is the right man or not nobody knows yet, but what is clear is that if you want to measure him by Arteta, then you have to be consistent in doing so and conclude that right now, he’s doing a BETTER job than Arteta did at that time! Truth is I don’t think he will get anywhere near the time Arteta has had, or the resources.
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He has already been given similar resources to what Arteta had in his first 2 transfer windows.
 
veryoldspur said:
The way that post reads indicates Ange is a better manager. Arteta is a pragmatic manager who has built an excellent squad who have great belief in the manager. Ange has signed 14 players, and if truth be known they don't believe in his crazy school playground tactics. Believe me, you will turn on him shortly, and I'll remind you of our conversations. Of course, we will win the occasional game, but at present we are losing approximately 50% of them, which is the worst for quite some time. Because he keeps telling us how good he is, doesn't mean you have to believe him!
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I think Arteta had signed 23 players at Arsenal before their first CL qualification under him.
 
thfcsteff said:
This. For me anyway.

https://www.football365.com/news/ange-postecoglou-fighting-spurs-mediocrity
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Thing is, what is the going rate for entertainment? My season ticket, travel etc ain't cheap. If I just want to see goals and 'entertainment' I can go watch football over the park. Tottenham are a professional football team charging top tier prices. For that I expect a professional run outfit. Surely the goal is to win entertainingly rather than be entertaining. Neutrals favourite is a another phrase for not really a threat to honours which Ange himself has said he wants to compete for.
 
veryoldspur said:
Take the first 10 games out of it, and that's when other managers sussed us out, we would have finished 16th.
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Ah here. There are lots of posters on here who think Ange should be fired who make reasonable arguments. I don't agree necessarily but they make good points and try to make them in a way that makes some sense.

You're seriously suggesting we take out 10 games where we got 26 points as if we got 0 points, adjust the table accordingly and judge Ange on that. It's a ridiculous argument and you've made a few ridiculous arguments as well as throwing some pretty poor, low-brow insults at him.
 
DeanoAustin said:
Ah here. There are lots of posters on here who think Ange should be fired who make reasonable arguments. I don't agree necessarily but they make good points and try to make them in a way that makes some sense.

You're seriously suggesting we take out 10 games where we got 26 points as if we got 0 points, adjust the table accordingly and judge Ange on that. It's a ridiculous argument and you've made a few ridiculous arguments as well as throwing some pretty poor, low-brow insults at him.
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He is treating Ange as though he is one of the tourists and women that he blames for all things wrong in football
 
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