Mikey10
Steffen Iversen
They all get the sack eventually. If he doesn’t adapt I think he’ll be gone by the start of next season - quite possibly sooner.
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Ange in or out?
- Thread starter Yiddo
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They all get the sack eventually. If he doesn’t adapt I think he’ll be gone by the start of next season - quite possibly sooner.
Really? next 6 games
- Could be in 13th-15th place if we fail to pick up point against Forest, Wolves & Saudi Sportswashing Machine
- Lose the first leg of semi against Liverpool by same score as last week-end, we are out
- Be 13th on Jan 15th and taking a beating from Arsenal, what do you think the mob view is going to be?
- And that's followed up by away to Everton and away game in Germany for Europa
Every game between now and January 23rd except Tamworth is a potential loss, and while no, we aren't going to lose all, we need to win a lot more than we are likely to.
I continue to believe the club is backing him and he has until the end of season but with @Mikey10 here, lose 3 of next 6 (includes Forest, Arsenal & Pool), draw 2 (Saudi Sportswashing Machine, Wolves) and only win Tamworth? I think he's gone.
Baleforce
Vinnie Samways
Like SAF always used to talk us up, so did Jose.
DeanoAustin
Les Ferdinand
You see the divergence of opinions on here where the majority are questioning the wisdom of our tactics. In the media, pretty much every pundit is disagreeing with Ange to some degree. There is no way there aren’t players in that squad and the team who aren’t thinking “this is a bit mad”. These are top pros who’ve made unbelievable sacrifices to get to where they are and they’re the ones who are getting embarrassed at times.
It’s a tough one for Ange to manage. Management is hard enough in everyday life. Can’t imagine how tough it is going in to try and direct lads who are all listening to the media saying that the manager’s game plan is destined to fail.
I don't think it's just the media though
The place I think it is a problem is the players like Gray & Bergvall, no way the senior players aren't thinking, we should protect the kids a little more, especially our lot, players like Biss with Sarr, Deki with Bergvall, Ben/Son with Gray, we have good players (as people) who have taken on almost big brother roles that are obvious even outside.
That's why I was glad in the pre-Forest presser, Ange was clear, he can't blame the players, his attack on Werner was a mistake and is the kind of thing that will derail him in a very quick time.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
True that they all do
But it won’t be for a while
I know we have fans who think he should be sacked now, but we also have fans who think levy should be sacked forgetting he owns the club
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
Wait and see
Lost Mango
Neil Ruddock
Apart from Mourinho and Conte (due to the football, the toxic personality and the fact that 'world class managers' needd exactly the right players to allow them to be world class) I haven't been that upset by any of the appointments. I have no say over them, no vote or input so I try not to get wound up by this is beyond my control. 1
I didn't like Goonersaurus either but apart from that I've gone along with it all. I was a nig Jol fan even when results weren't great.
I didn't like Goonersaurus either but apart from that I've gone along with it all. I was a nig Jol fan even when results weren't great.
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Losing the dressing room, it's the start.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
The mob view is the problem
As I said a few days ago this is arsenal after arteta was 18 months in except he didn’t have the up injury crisis
Hell he did win an FA cuo early doors but apparently that wasn’t his side unless it suits the argument. And the diners and why I’m raising it is because their mind wanted him gone. Their board even interviewed other managers including Poch.
And I think we will limp to maybe 2 wins and a draw in the next 6 because we are knackered and the 18 year olds can’t lift a team with nothing in the tank. We’re looking at kids who can’t even grow a beard to do things they arent ready for. If fans think that’s in the manager the he can never win, but a new guy will still have the injury issues until it ends
Robspur12
Frederic Kanoute
Mob view doesn’t matter. Some fans give this more importance than it deserves. Money is what talks. If we don’t look like we are going to compete for top 4, Ange will be gone.
I’m afraid the comparisons with Arteta are also wide of the mark imho. Just because there may have been some similarities in early results that does not, in itself, mean Ange is going to end up having us challenging for the league anytime soon. For a start, as much as I dislike Arteta, you can see he is more pragmatic than Ange. Arteta builds his teams from a solid defence. That seems, based on experience, to be key to winning things in this league. I don’t think you’ll get away with conceding goals and chances the way we do.
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Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
We didn’t conquer it last year
And i agree Ange is nothing like Arteta
He is can for a start with a clear philosophy which I’m yet to see from Arteta. Arteta now seems to focus on set piece play during by their goal return this year in that way
And i agree you dong win things unless you stop conceding as much but the reason they didn’t win a title was because he did just that.. played for a nil nil again his rivals and assumed they would win every game after. That’s pragmatism that cost them their best chance of a title.
So I’m not comparing are with Arteta I’m comparing the clubs and the fans at a similar point in time and that is very relevant
Baleforce
Vinnie Samways
Did he miss out on 1st, or was that part of guaranteeing 2nd?
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
He made sure they secured 2nd
veryoldspur
Helder Postiga
The way that post reads indicates Ange is a better manager. Arteta is a pragmatic manager who has built an excellent squad who have great belief in the manager. Ange has signed 14 players, and if truth be known they don't believe in his crazy school playground tactics. Believe me, you will turn on him shortly, and I'll remind you of our conversations. Of course, we will win the occasional game, but at present we are losing approximately 50% of them, which is the worst for quite some time. Because he keeps telling us how good he is, doesn't mean you have to believe him!
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
Arteta is FIVE YEARS into his job. It took him THREE to actually make a half-decent tilt at the title. At this stage in his second season, Arteta’s Arsenal were in 13th place with 20 points. Whether Postecoglu is the right man or not nobody knows yet, but what is clear is that if you want to measure him by Arteta, then you have to be consistent in doing so and conclude that right now, he’s doing a BETTER job than Arteta did at that time! Truth is I don’t think he will get anywhere near the time Arteta has had, or the resources.
Bedfordspurs
Terry Naylor
People will tell you arteta had a style though and we don’t… usual tosh
Unless our results pick up dramatically and we get some kind of consistency in the 2nd half of the season I think he will be gone before the start of next season. If by some miracle we win a trophy this season he may get a stay of execution. I personally will be amazed if we beat Liverpool over 2 legs and even if we do I would not bet on us winning the final although on our day we can smash anyone. But so far this season how many of the teams above us apart from Emirates Marketing Project have we beat?
Its supporting our lovely team for so many years that has made me such a cynic
Its supporting our lovely team for so many years that has made me such a cynic
thfcsteff
Vic Buckingham
JerusalemMan
Chris Perry
Love that