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American politics

Lilbaz said:
The economy is fine. Many americans are happy with ice deporting criminals and illegal aliens. Epstein yep. Although the clintons are currently under the spotlight.
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Most people's biggest soother/pacifier is the kitchen table finances being A okay.

Lots of brick can, rightly or wrongly, be ignored, turned a blind eye to or just not on your radar.....as 'you' are doing just ok.

When that's not the case, the Presidents approval rating will fall thru the floor and everyone starts noticing everything. And that is where we are.
 
Lost Mango said:
the economy isn't as fine as he keeps claiming it is, which becomes an issue when his voters don't see the changes (e.g. fuel prices) he says are out there). Also inflation back above where he inherited it and rising.

Nothing really coming on the Clintons, which the Clintons knew. They only agreed because it makes Trump not testifying look like he has something to hide, whether he does or not.

He needs to do something about mid-terms (and 2028) because if he loses both Houses he will a)be impeached within 6 months and b) stopped from doing all the things Congress actually have the right to be doing or not doing. it would also put a kibosh on the corruption and cronyism as he couldn't make new appointments without proper due diligence....
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Gdp rose 2.2% in 2025. Inflation 2.4%. Unemploymet 4.3% Markets near record high. Wage growth 3.7%.

Keir Starmer would kill for those numbers.
 
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Lilbaz said:
Think bombing and putting boots on the ground are 2 very different things.
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True, but boots on the ground seems an inevitability unless this gets resolved quickly, with all the other countries in the region likely being involved sooner rather than later as well. I don’t know. War is expensive unless you’re the arms dealer - I can’t see Trump doing himself any favors, but who knows, they’ll probably be able to spin it in their favor one way or the other.
 
Mikey10 said:
And yet…

www.cnbc.com

42% of Americans under 30 say they're 'barely getting by' financially, Harvard survey finds

With student debt and everyday costs adding up, young adults say they’re struggling to cover the basics.
www.cnbc.com www.cnbc.com

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A survey by a progressive think tank and a democrat supporting news station?

Do you think if fox did a survey it might read different?

I'll stick with the figures.
 
Daisuk said:
True, but boots on the ground seems an inevitability unless this gets resolved quickly, with all the other countries in the region likely being involved sooner rather than later as well. I don’t know. War is expensive unless you’re the arms dealer - I can’t see Trump doing himself any favors, but who knows, they’ll probably be able to spin it in their favor one way or the other.
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I doubt there will be boots on the ground. There will be a few bombing runs and it will be over for another few months.
 
Daisuk said:
True, but boots on the ground seems an inevitability unless this gets resolved quickly, with all the other countries in the region likely being involved sooner rather than later as well. I don’t know. War is expensive unless you’re the arms dealer - I can’t see Trump doing himself any favors, but who knows, they’ll probably be able to spin it in their favor one way or the other.
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Which other countries in the region? America's allies (UAE, Bahrain, Qatar) have no populations, they are just airbases. Iraq and Afghanistan on either side aren't strong enough or interested in foreign wars. Turkey have ethnic kinship with Iranians, but their only interest will be to supress the Iranian Kurds if they get a bit feisty in the north-west.
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
They would have been evacuated ages ago, I wouldn't ever rule out boots on the ground, there will be most def troops in Iran if the regime is toppled and that comes with its own issues
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They are military bases. You don't abandon them. Where would they evacuate to?
They'd be ready for stikes. Just as israel is. There will still probably be casualties though.
 
Lilbaz said:
They are military bases. You don't abandon them. Where would they evacuate to?
They'd be ready for stikes. Just as israel is. There will still probably be casualties though.
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Mate, you don't just sit in a military base if there are missiles detected heading your way or a hostile threat, they are soldiers, they ain't thick.

You see plenty of civilian military in the likes of the UAE, they don't have to stay on base
 
Lilbaz said:
A survey by a progressive think tank and a democrat supporting news station?

Do you think if fox did a survey it might read different?

I'll stick with the figures.
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I think you mean you’ll stick with the figures you like, not the ones you don’t. 🙂

Makes you wonder why his poll ratings are through the floor if so many are enjoying a booming economy.

Probably dodgy polls, I suppose.
 
LutonSpurs said:
Some people so indifferent to war. Almost salivating. Disgusting and inhumane.
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People love the prospect of it so some level, I never understood it, I read the history of it and reading where and how it started, the mindset behind it, but its always to any level heart breaking. The sanitisation we have in modern life, of one life worth less than the other because of a perceived greater good, its a shocker
 
MartyFunkhouser said:
Mate, you don't just sit in a military base if there are missiles detected heading your way or a hostile threat, they are soldiers, they ain't thick.

You see plenty of civilian military in the likes of the UAE, they don't have to stay on base
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Yes you do. They'd have shelters on base. You don't just go to a bar in town till it blows over.
 
Lilbaz said:
Yes you do. They'd have shelters on base. You don't just go to a bar in town till it blows over.
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There are evacuation procedures well, you can civvy street it also, doesn't mean you are going to bars. Thats a weird take

When there is no threat of boots on the ground there is no point of the majority of your fleet to be in the line of danger, thats just mental
 
Being cynical I wouldn't be surprised if they use war as a pre-cursor to turning the money printers back on, it's the only thing the US seems to know.

It doesn't feel like they're even pretending there's a reason for this war, probably launched now because the stock markets are shut and also so that it's started before there was a chance to pass a bill saying Trump needed authorisation from congress to attack Iran.
 
P.D. said:
Being cynical I wouldn't be surprised if they use war as a pre-cursor to turning the money printers back on, it's the only thing the US seems to know.

It doesn't feel like they're even pretending there's a reason for this war, probably launched now because the stock markets are shut and also so that it's started before there was a chance to pass a bill saying Trump needed authorisation from congress to attack Iran.
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Def helped the gold market, few mates have had it up predicting this, I wasn't as brave and was looking in too late.
 
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