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I agree with most of the post but don’t believe the players are playing with no fudges. I do believe they are trying.

I also believe that when The Athletic article comes out after Ange is gone, it’ll be riddled with stories of player dissatisfaction with a manager who increasingly looked out of his depth, training methods and selections that were reckless and a manager who went into his shell as his beliefs crumbled before his eyes. Speculation on my part completely but let’s see.
I'll be interested to see how much of the training he actually did/oversaw as there are rumours he does very little and leaves it to the coaches
 
I'll be interested to see how much of the training he actually did/oversaw as there are rumours he does very little and leaves it to the coaches
It’s not rumours, it’s facts
He sets the coaching plans with his coaches and they do the work
Other managers work like that and some don’t
poch tried to do that here but couldn’t get it right
I don’t know what works best though
 
It’s not rumours, it’s facts
He sets the coaching plans with his coaches and they do the work
Other managers work like that and some don’t
poch tried to do that here but couldn’t get it right
I don’t know what works best though
Seems to be a system where you would want the coaches to be ingrained in your philosophy to me. At least the majority of them.

Poch needed a refresh, get in another assitant every couple years alongside the team would have been ideal.

The Ange method just seems a bit bonkers. You come into a new team, hire coaches you've never worked with and leave it to them to instill your ideas. I'd want at least my trusted consigliere by myside so I knew the right messages were getting across.
 
Seems to be a system where you would want the coaches to be ingrained in your philosophy to me. At least the majority of them.

Poch needed a refresh, get in another assitant every couple years alongside the team would have been ideal.

The Ange method just seems a bit bonkers. You come into a new team, hire coaches you've never worked with and leave it to them to instill your ideas. I'd want at least my trusted consigliere by myside so I knew the right messages were getting across.
As i say, I can’t really comment on what does and doesn’t work but what we know
 
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Seems to be a system where you would want the coaches to be ingrained in your philosophy to me. At least the majority of them.

Poch needed a refresh, get in another assitant every couple years alongside the team would have been ideal.

The Ange method just seems a bit bonkers. You come into a new team, hire coaches you've never worked with and leave it to them to instill your ideas. I'd want at least my trusted consigliere by myside so I knew the right messages were getting across.

It's another aspect of his methods that highlights (to me) what you can get away with when managing at a lower level.
 
Yeah our youth recruitment has generally been pretty exceptional. We are also pretty good at bringing in rough diamonds that larger clubs have doubts over. And playing the free transfer market. We've really struggled when sounding big on game changing signings for the first team. Always tend to pick the wrong-uns from Soldado and Paulinho to Sanchez, N'Dombele and Lo Celso.
Always pick the wrong ones? Romero, VDV, Kulusevski, Bentancur. We get it right more often than not. Every club sign players that don't work out.
If I remember correctly, Arsenal have signed 21 defenders since Arteta took over. How many of those have worked out?
 
Always pick the wrong ones? Romero, VDV, Kulusevski, Bentancur. We get it right more often than not. Every club sign players that don't work out.
If I remember correctly, Arsenal have signed 21 defenders since Arteta took over. How many of those have worked out?
It has improved markedly in recent years. From Paratici onwards our hit rate on transfers has been pretty decent across the board.
 
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This is a great example of how not to play

Why did he shoot from there ?
Where is the guy playing striker ?

If Porro catches the keeper out and goes in, he'd be lauded as a genius. From that frame the player in the middle looks offside and the defender just behind him should be able to cut the ball out for whoever it is behind him.

I get that he wasn't brilliant aside from the assist, far from it. But the chance above wasn't an absolute banker of a goal and it's only him in the squad who is getting the ball to Richy for his goal...
 
If Porro catches the keeper out and goes in, he'd be lauded as a genius. From that frame the player in the middle looks offside and the defender just behind him should be able to cut the ball out for whoever it is behind him.

I get that he wasn't brilliant aside from the assist, far from it. But the chance above wasn't an absolute banker of a goal and it's only him in the squad who is getting the ball to Richy for his goal...
The player in the middle is behind the ball, so onside. I sit dead level with that position and I honestly think shooting from there is crazy, if he shot. I'm not sure he didn't just try and smash it across goal and hope for the best. Either way, we should have scored there.
 
The player in the middle is behind the ball, so onside. I sit dead level with that position and I honestly think shooting from there is crazy, if he shot. I'm not sure he didn't just try and smash it across goal and hope for the best. Either way, we should have scored there.

Tbf you're absolutely right, I got my angles wrong and it's a good job I don't work on VAR!

He should have squared it, but it's of course easier to analyse a still and declare what someone should have done than to actually do it. You want players to back themselves and I believe Porro was definitely shooting, with hindsight it was a bad decision. You can't however go back and change the bad decisions whilst keeping the good ones executed well ie his cross to Richarlison.
 
Tbf you're absolutely right, I got my angles wrong and it's a good job I don't work on VAR!

He should have squared it, but it's of course easier to analyse a still and declare what someone should have done than to actually do it. You want players to back themselves and I believe Porro was definitely shooting, with hindsight it was a bad decision. You can't however go back and change the bad decisions whilst keeping the good ones executed well ie his cross to Richarlison.
It wasn't the only example though, he had several shots that he was never going to score from. It was just selfish.
 
If Porro catches the keeper out and goes in, he'd be lauded as a genius. From that frame the player in the middle looks offside and the defender just behind him should be able to cut the ball out for whoever it is behind him.

I get that he wasn't brilliant aside from the assist, far from it. But the chance above wasn't an absolute banker of a goal and it's only him in the squad who is getting the ball to Richy for his goal...
Was just about to post the same. Don't think Gray is offside, but it would take a lot to score from that position, and as you say, a cross to the back post is likely cut off by the defender or GK. The third option is a cut back to Kulu, but he's got a lot to do to score from there, with 3 defenders and the GK to beat. The GK is slightly too far from the post, so a shot isn't the worst option. The gap is there. He just got it 15cm wrong.
 
Always pick the wrong ones? Romero, VDV, Kulusevski, Bentancur. We get it right more often than not. Every club sign players that don't work out.
If I remember correctly, Arsenal have signed 21 defenders since Arteta took over. How many of those have worked out?
21
 
Was just about to post the same. Don't think Gray is offside, but it would take a lot to score from that position, and as you say, a cross to the back post is likely cut off by the defender or GK. The third option is a cut back to Kulu, but he's got a lot to do to score from there, with 3 defenders and the GK to beat. The GK is slightly too far from the post, so a shot isn't the worst option. The gap is there. He just got it 15cm wrong.
A shot is the worst option, ridiculous decision. The keeper isn't too far from the post, if he was any closer he'd be holding it.
Square it to Gray or else fire it in low and hard to the back post. Even if the defender gets to a low and hard cross he's just as likely to put it in his own net as cut out the cross.
 
A shot is the worst option, ridiculous decision. The keeper isn't too far from the post, if he was any closer he'd be holding it.
Square it to Gray or else fire it in low and hard to the back post. Even if the defender gets to a low and hard cross he's just as likely to put it in his own net as cut out the cross.
GK is on his way out. Both Gray and the defender are ahead of the post, Gray very much so, so scoring would require a magnificent touch, and a pin point pinged cross. Two actions that each alone is just as difficult as scoring with the shot.
 
A shot is the worst option, ridiculous decision. The keeper isn't too far from the post, if he was any closer he'd be holding it.
Square it to Gray or else fire it in low and hard to the back post. Even if the defender gets to a low and hard cross he's just as likely to put it in his own net as cut out the cross.
It's mind boggling. There is a decent "corridor of uncertainty" there he can hit that defenders and goalkeepers hate.

I will defend him on the one in the first half though. I was sitting pretty much in line with it and I don't think he had much or anything in the box to hit.
 
GK is on his way out. Both Gray and the defender are ahead of the post, Gray very much so, so scoring would require a magnificent touch, and a pin point pinged cross. Two actions that each alone is just as difficult as scoring with the shot.
The cross has a higher chance of being accurate than scoring. It doesn't have to be pin point accurate if fired low and hard to the back post, there's a 2 yard corridor there to fire it through. Gray is a little ahead of the post, but it's still a far better scoring chance than from Porros angle.
 
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