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Tony Galvin
Bingo, i really to believe that Kane will be a even better player behind the front player.
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Vincent Janssen
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Bingo, i really to believe that Kane will be a even better player behind the front player.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
That mobility and running channels is just part of the modern #9 though.
If the plan was to use Kane as a #10, we'd've surely bought a Defoe type forward, rather than a Kane-clone (big alrounder, back-to-goal, not that quick) like Janssen?
Rorschach
Sonny Walters
Early days obviously but I thought Jansen looked more the poacher type than and all-rounder Kane is. Lots of runs to the near post and playing right on the offside line. Maybe he is not as similar to Kane as was thought. In saying that it is just one match.
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Luka Modric
No, it wouldn't have made sense to purchase a forward with completely different attributes to Kane as then we do not have 'cover' for Kane and either the team has to completely change the way that they play if Kane is injured/suspended/rested/dropped or we are simply less effective as a team as we do not have a player up top who fits our game plan. Interestingly enough though I think that Janssen does have some Defoe like attributes in the way that he looks to attack the near/far post as opposed to pulling back like Kane does. That is why i think they could also suit a 9/10 partnership on occasions.
While mobility and running the channels is indeed part of being a modern number 9, the fact that Kane naturally peels left and Janssen peels right could give us a really good balance when chasing the game with Alli taking advantage of the opposition's centre halves being split as he surges through the middle, of course we would be sacrificing one of our deeper midfielders in this instance to allow us to attack this way.
Whiffler
Jermaine Jenas
FTFY no charge
I agree but personally I would drop Eriksen to CM and have Alli cutting in from the left, Lamela from the right, with Kane as LS and Janssen as RS. Alli isn't ready for that CM role yet, and it wastes his goalscoring instinct.
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Luka Modric
I wasn't suggesting dropping Alli into a CM role.... He would continue to play in the same attacking role, but there should be even more space for him to exploit through the centre with Kane and Janssen splitting out wide and likely dragging a centre half at least some of the way out with them. Either Dembele or (probably preferably) Dier would be sacrificed for us to play this way I don't think it is an option we would use to start a game with, but if losing/drawing late on and chasing a goal it is a tactic that we could use, especially if the opposition aren't looking to get their fullbacks forward.
Spur of the moment
Frederic Kanoute
Why move aside your most prolific striker in decades just when he's approaching his peak? Almost by definition he'll score fewer. Might just work if Janssen hits the ground running, but that is one very big if.
Unless and until Janssen forces his way into the side as our no 1 striker I want to see Kane continue doing what he does best, with Janssen used as his understudy. Not as though we're short of candidates for the no.10 slot - Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son et al.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
Unless and until Janssen forces his way into the side as our no 1 striker I want to see Kane continue doing what he does best, with Janssen used as his understudy. Not as though we're short of candidates for the no.10 slot - Alli, Eriksen, Lamela, Son et al.
If it ain't broke don't fix it.
We are Tottenham
Kasey Keller
Greaves and Smith Crookes and Archibald. ....
One striker is not enough ..Its about putting the ball in the net..err to win games!
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Two strikers generally hasn't been effective since the 90s. It's in the history book along with wingers, poachers and crossing.
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indianspur
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No it will come back in fashion once a team wins something with 2 strikers up top even if one of the two drops deep.
Wasn't until Redknapps last season with Adebayor here that we stopped playing 2 up top - think it was pretty common up until around the same time in the early 2010s
As usual it's not black and white and I'm sure there will be a time that 2 up front becomes popular again
As usual it's not black and white and I'm sure there will be a time that 2 up front becomes popular again
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
The W-M (3-2-2-3) might come back one day too. So might balls where the leather is laced together.
Gutter Boy
Tim Sherwood
Redknapp was still playing it about 10 years after everyone else, but it was bringing in Rafa that forced him to abandoned it. Pav/Crouch-Defoe/Keane was possibly the last time we played it?
Even Jol was considered outdated at the time using Berbatov and Keane 4 or so years before.
Berbatov and Keane was a front two but im not sure it was considered outdated - football isn't a fashion parade, if it's effective and works well for you then use it
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Luka Modric
Its not in vogue right now but that doesn't mean it is in the history books. In football you tend to get one or two trailblazers and then everybody else follows. Conte
seemed to play 2 up front for Italy, I think he also did the same when he was at Juventus, I wonder whether he will do the same at Chelsea?
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Luka Modric
One could argue that the 3-2-2-3 formation already has made a come back..... It's not really THAT far from the formation that Barcelona use (although I guess theirs is more a 2-3-2-3).
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Luka Modric
You shouldn't get too worked up about the formation that pops up on the screen before the game. In reality formations tend to be very fluid. For instance over the past couple of seasons when Chadli played he was playing more as a second centre forward than as an attacking wide midfield player. We were listed pre-game as playing a 4-2-3-1, but for all intents and purposes we had 2 up front..... Doe that mean that Pochettino's methods are outdated? Or is it just that Pochettino realises there are different ways of taking advantage of space that opens up on a football pitch?
I can remember when Jol was writing for one of the broadsheets during the World Cup that took place in Germany and he wrote that 'defensive and attacking blocks' were far more important than a notional formation. He said that in any team there are x players who's primary job is to defend and y players who's primary job is to attack. At that World cup he wrote that teams were generally either playing an 8-3 or 7-4 defense-attack blocks, except England who he felt were playing a 10-1 block (hence no creativity) and Brazil who were effectively playing 6-5. Jol's point was that the players actual positions in the defensive or attacking blocks were reasonably inconsequential in the grand scheme of things and it was more about a player's primary role in the team.