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[Baleforce]

There you go
Because of the change to the rules that gets given
It wouldn’t have in the old rules pre var changes

Not watching, what happened?

 

[Bedfordspurs]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325444727681011712

Not watching, what happened?

The Leicester lad drills it hard at the worlds full back ms arm which is by his side but ever so slightly upwards like he doing a low camp wave
The ref gives nothing
Var tel him to watch it again
Joke IMO
At full speed he is moving his hands away and more so at slo Lo

 

[Baleforce]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1325444727681011712

The Leicester lad drills it hard at the worlds full back ms arm which is by his side but ever so slightly upwards like he doing a low camp wave
The ref gives nothing
Var tel him to watch it again
Joke IMO
At full speed he is moving his hands away and more so at slo Lo

under the old rules, that is not a penalty, no calculated or considered act, so no intent, only a corrupt or incompetent ref gives it

 

[Baleforce]

We are where we are now because crowds use to scream handball every time that happened.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

under the old rules, that is not a penalty, no calculated or considered act, so no intent, only a corrupt or incompetent ref gives it

Yep exactly

 

[Baleforce]

Yep exactly

so to expand on my earlier point, the actual handballs allowed to be let go, where no advantage was seen, are just as much of a problem

I apologise for resorting to hypotheticals for but obvious reasons I can't play tape

right, you and me are opposing midfielders going after a bouncing ball in the centre circle, you look like you might get there first so I intentionally give it a sly flick with my elbow to move it into my path, I then play a terrible ball forward that goes out for a throw in near your box, the ref thought he saw a handball, wasn't sure, and as I gained no advantage he's happy for play to resume with a throw, no harm done right?

but with VAR, it gets called back, they saw my cheating, you get a FK, you immediately play a much better ball forward, intersecting my slow CB's (Toby and Eric) and your forward scores

that's why every single incident should be officiated in isolation, in full compliance with the laws, because not all of the advantages can be seen, thats the only way to get consistency

 

[Bedfordspurs]

so to expand on my earlier point, the actual handballs allowed to be let go, where no advantage was seen, are just as much of a problem

I apologise for resorting to hypotheticals for but obvious reasons I can't play tape

right, you and me are opposing midfielders going after a bouncing ball in the centre circle, you look like you might get there first so I intentionally give it a sly flick with my elbow to move it into my path, I then play a terrible ball forward that goes out for a throw in near your box, the ref thought he saw a handball, wasn't sure, and as I gained no advantage he's happy for play to resume with a throw, no harm done right?

but with VAR, it gets called back, they saw my cheating, you get a FK, you immediately play a much better ball forward, intersecting my slow CB's (Toby and Eric) and your forward scores

that's why every single incident should be officiated in isolation, in full compliance with the laws, because not all of the advantages can be seen, thats the only way to get consistency

But your saying you flick the arm out with intent
I’m not arguing there that’s a free kick
More that if no intent is obvious we play on
Var by the way doesn’t interject in decisions like you describe as there not goal scoring or goal “creating ones” (as in the infringement)

 

[Baleforce]

But your saying you flick the arm out with intent
I’m not arguing there that’s a free kick
More that if no intent is obvious we play on
Var by the way doesn’t interject in decisions like you describe as there not goal scoring or goal “creating ones” (as in the infringement)

VAR should be looking at everything (I know that’s not the case yet).

 

[Bedfordspurs]

VAR should be looking at everything (I know that’s not the case yet).

Maybe
Or it should be used for certain calls that are unarguable
Like offside and ball out of play

 

[Baleforce]

Maybe
Or it should be used for certain calls that are unarguable
Like offside and ball out of play

My point speaks more to the importance of consistent officiating, there shouldn’t be common sense or evening things up, there should only be objective decisions, if the laws don’t allow for that, they need clarifying.

 

[scaramanga]

But your saying you flick the arm out with intent
I’m not arguing there that’s a free kick
More that if no intent is obvious we play on
Var by the way doesn’t interject in decisions like you describe as there not goal scoring or goal “creating ones” (as in the infringement)

Seeing as the referees can't know intent, only guess, it makes more sense to have an absolute rule.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Seeing as the referees can't know intent, only guess, it makes more sense to have an absolute rule.

But today’s hand ball was drilled at him from 2 yards. That’s never a pen IMO

 

[scaramanga]

But today’s hand ball was drilled at him from 2 yards. That’s never a pen IMO

There should be a better rule but guessing intent isn't it.

 

[Bedfordspurs]

There should be a better rule but guessing intent isn't it.

I agree
But a player smacking it at the opposition player and then appealing is the same as diving m my book

 

[MKSpur]

We are where we are now because crowds use to scream handball every time that happened.

I miss those times when an appeal was turned down for the opposition and we’d shout handball for a minute or so every time we touched the ball.

 

[K.D.D.D.D.Soc]

We are where we are now because crowds use to scream handball every time that happened.

Yeah but only certain crowds matter.

 

[parklane1]

I can not believe there are still so me fans defending the farce that is VAR.

 

[Legohamster]

Only the 4 woeful VAR calls this weekend

Bamford/City Pen/ Leicester Pen/ Villa goal

 

[Bedfordspurs]

Only the 4 woeful VAR calls this weekend

Bamford/City Pen/ Leicester Pen/ Villa goal

TBF the villa goal he was in front of line of sight of the keeper
And Bamford was offside in the photo they used
Both were great strikes though

 

[Gazza Dazzla]

TBF the villa goal he was in front of line of sight of the keeper
And Bamford was offside in the photo they used
Both were great strikes though

If Bamford was in any way offside based on the current rules of the game then it’s a complete joke. The rules would not have had him offside (or even close to it) before VAR, so that still comes under the VAR fudge up umbrella for me.