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UFO’s - Do You Believe ?

Speakers confirmed for the House Hearings on the 13/11

That Luiz Elizondo (former head of AATIP program inside the Pentagon) fella was on Diary of a CEO recently.... interesting listen/watch. Certainly didn't come across as a nutjob.

I'm open minded about this stuff, don't actively seek it out but find it interesting, and of course if offered a full access look at what they have labelled 'top secret' I'd be all over it :)
 
That Luiz Elizondo (former head of AATIP program inside the Pentagon) fella was on Diary of a CEO recently.... interesting listen/watch. Certainly didn't come across as a nutjob.

I'm open minded about this stuff, don't actively seek it out but find it interesting, and of course if offered a full access look at what they have labelled 'top secret' I'd be all over it :)
Look for interviews with Karl Nell and David Grusch, DG was one of the 1st whistleblowers to come out
 
It may be happening for others though?
I don't think it is, as for most of the univeses life time, most of it has been deadly to life, and it is only recently that things have settled down enough for life to develop.

Then there is the difficulty of actual space travel and the technology required.

Then it maybe the case, that the chance of life reaching a point like us might insanely small... We could be the first.

In Elite dangerous, there is a station called Hutton Orbital. It is 0.22 light years from the Primary star.... In game, travelling at x2000 the speed of light it takes 90 mins to reach.

People just don't understand how hard and difficult it is to travel these distances.

To travel at the speed of light requires as much energy as the universe contains...

There could be pockets of life that have colonised their local solar system.
 
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I just want to throw something in here:
- While I'd accept that life in general is probably quite common within the universe, I think complex life will be much rarer, as you need a very specific set of circumstances for complex life to evolve and thrive.
- The Earth is not only within the perfect zone of orbit around our star for light and heat to be just right for complex life, but the level of mass extinction events on Earth have been extremely rare. That's partly due to the solar system's position within the arse-end of the Milky Way meaning we are distant from lethal near galactic events such as supernova, pulsars etc. but having gass giants as big as Jupiter and Saturn in an outside orbit also acts as a shield against space debris which is attracted to and impacted by the gravity of those planets. Scientists have found it us far more common than first thought to have gas giants within close orbit of stars and rocky planets on outside orbits.
- Then even within complex life, I don't think sentient intelligence is a desirable evolutionary trait. Our brains are so large that childbirth ie extremely risky and carries a high mortality rate for our females (prior to modern medicine). Our young are born helpless and remain helpless requiring constant care for a good number of years after birth due to the fact that we have to birth our young very early in their physical development cycle due to the oversized brains.
- Evidence suggests that human ancestors and modern humans almost went extinct on a variety of occasions and remained critically endangered for 10s of thousands of years.

In my view we are an evolutionary accident and very likely alone, particularly in our local galactic neighbourhood.
 
Anyone got an opinion on the current global unprecendented high level of unexplained drone/UAP/UFO sightings?
Is it all flimflam? Is it the precursor to govt finally admitted we are not alone?
 
Anyone got an opinion on the current global unprecendented high level of unexplained drone/UAP/UFO sightings?
Is it all flimflam? Is it the precursor to govt finally admitted we are not alone?
I've had a look at some of the NJ crap, 1 was a helicopter with FAA mandated collision avoidance lights, a second looked like a wheelie bin with 2 LED strips on it, a 3rd from some gop congressman was Orion's belt.

Haven't really looked beyond that, far too much deliberate hoaxes and mis identication to be really bothered with.
 
Anyone got an opinion on the current global unprecendented high level of unexplained drone/UAP/UFO sightings?
Is it all flimflam? Is it the precursor to govt finally admitted we are not alone?
A lot 100% can be exmplained, there are a lot that can't
Lots of wild rumour that the drones are looking for dirty bombs/a lost nuke etc too
The White House is making ridiculous statements which are not helping too
 
Just a personal musing on the topic of alien species, please just skip if you're not interested in that.

I think we're a simple race of a species experiencing an incredibly limited version of reality (as if there is such an objective thing) constricted to time and space - like an ant completely oblivious to say a cow or a human, nevermind our culture and structures. There are no doubts in my mind that species from other areas of the universe, or even other dimensions, are perfectly capable of visiting us in whatever capacity they wish. In time (when we've evolved, and we are designed to do so), I'm convinced that we'll be able to communicate and interface with all of these beings, and hence see ourselves in a much bigger perspective, not to mention the planet we currently live on. Evolution means co-operation and peace - who would want war? The will to dominate stems from fear, you won't have that need if you are indeed vastly more intelligent than an average human being (hell, 99% of human beings don't want war). I believe that if we indeed have foreign species visiting us on earth (I'm inclined to believe so), they're not here to annihilate us (or you would think they had done so already) - they're observing us to figure out when we're ready to be a player in a much bigger part of the universe (or maybe they know when that'll happen already and are just amusing themselves by watching us). And seeing as we all re-incarnate, we are all going to see it at some point - that will be sweet!

Now, I realize what this sounds like to some of you, but no, I'm not manic or back on the mushroom sauce. Just felt like sharing some thoughts I don't really share with that many. Some of the experiences from my shroom binge I actually think there are substance to, but I don't dare say that to people in my life, so saying it here. But what do I know? Absolutely nothing.
 
I think we're a simple race of a species experiencing an incredibly limited version of reality (as if there is such an objective thing) constricted to time and space - like an ant completely oblivious to say a cow or a human, nevermind our culture and structures. There are no doubts in my mind that species from other areas of the universe, or even other dimensions, are perfectly capable of visiting us in whatever capacity they wish. In time (when we've evolved, and we are designed to do so), I'm convinced that we'll be able to communicate and interface with all of these beings, and hence see ourselves in a much bigger perspective, not to mention the planet we currently live on.

Not that much of a stretch to believe, considering that until relatively recently we couldn't see blue because we hadn't invented it yet.

I watched a documentary a year or 2 ago about a tribe in Africa (can't remember exactly where) that could see green so vividly they could all pick out a different shade immediately from about 12 squares. They all looked identical to me no matter how long I looked at them.

I had a boss about 30 years ago that was convinced that aliens were here and used to produce detailed schematics of UFO's and systems. I avoided him because he really could go on about it for hours. I started working on different things so lost touch with him.
A few years later I had to go see some admiral (can't remember if it was rear vice full or who) but I heard his voice ranting that he was being followed by men in black.

Naturally I hid around the corner till he was gone. It sounds like the ramblings of a mad man, but who's to say that us "normies" cannot see them because we haven't learned how, but he had?

My wife's doing a masters atm on cultural astronomy, some of the things that were believed seem ludicrous, yet in a 1000 years time someone could be saying the same about us.

Anyway, I'd love to believe in UFO's etc and there probably are other intelligent life out there, but have never seen anything to lead me to believe it as a fact, or met anyone I would term reliable that says they have.
 
Not that much of a stretch to believe, considering that until relatively recently we couldn't see blue because we hadn't invented it yet.

I watched a documentary a year or 2 ago about a tribe in Africa (can't remember exactly where) that could see green so vividly they could all pick out a different shade immediately from about 12 squares. They all looked identical to me no matter how long I looked at them.

I had a boss about 30 years ago that was convinced that aliens were here and used to produce detailed schematics of UFO's and systems. I avoided him because he really could go on about it for hours. I started working on different things so lost touch with him.
A few years later I had to go see some admiral (can't remember if it was rear vice full or who) but I heard his voice ranting that he was being followed by men in black.

Naturally I hid around the corner till he was gone. It sounds like the ramblings of a mad man, but who's to say that us "normies" cannot see them because we haven't learned how, but he had?

My wife's doing a masters atm on cultural astronomy, some of the things that were believed seem ludicrous, yet in a 1000 years time someone could be saying the same about us.

Anyway, I'd love to believe in UFO's etc and there probably are other intelligent life out there, but have never seen anything to lead me to believe it as a fact, or met anyone I would term reliable that says they have.

Love it! Thanks for posting. I didn't even know cultural astronomy was a thing, need to look that up! And the tribe with superior green vision, obviously. Nice! Thanks. 😊
 
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