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Uefa unveil new FFP rules.

Gazza Dazzla said:
So I guess Goons will get roughly 70m match day rev this year? Will be tight for them but if they make CL it will obviously help going forward!

Might be a stupid question.., but do the NFL and boxing matches count as match day revenues or alternative revenues? Would push us up towards 150m I’d have thought if not already included?
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It's got to be 70% of total revenue, not just match day. Otherwise it wouldn't include sponsors, over-the-season TV money, shirt sales, etc. Looking at the graphs someone posted, I think we'll be fine. As will the Gooners, unfortunately.

Robbo said:
I'm not at all confident any new rules will prevent financial doping. Cheaters always find new ways to cheat, and there are always loopholes to exploit. I'm also sure UEFA will allow enough time before the rules are put in place to allow for the doped clubs to adapt.
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I think the change will make it very difficult for clubs to suddenly join the top table through mid-level financial doping. The current big clubs will manage somehow, e.g. ridiculous sponsorship deals, training ground investment, etc., and I suspect the really crazy dopers (e.g. Saudi Sportswashing Machine's owners) will find a way.
 
FatBloke said:
It's got to be 70% of total revenue, not just match day. Otherwise it wouldn't include sponsors, over-the-season TV money, shirt sales, etc. Looking at the graphs someone posted, I think we'll be fine. As will the Gooners, unfortunately.
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Yea, maybe I wasn’t clear in my original post? My query was whether NFL and other hosting were classed as part of match day revenue.

where I was mentioning match day revenue for the goons was in the context that last years accounts had barely any MD rev due to Covid so if ours was estimated at being a 122m bump in revenue this season then how much of a bump would the Goons get, I was guesstimating 70m. However that guess would be dépendant on whether our 122m rev includes NFL or not.

clear as mud?
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Yea, maybe I wasn’t clear in my original post? My query was whether NFL and other hosting were classed as part of match day revenue.

where I was mentioning match day revenue for the goons was in the context that last years accounts had barely any MD rev due to Covid so if ours was estimated at being a 122m bump in revenue this season then how much of a bump would the Goons get, I was guesstimating 70m. However that guess would be dépendant on whether our 122m rev includes NFL or not.

clear as mud?
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Arsenal should get over £100m matchday (including events). They did before covid. Although ours will be the highest, in the world i believe. For football at least.
 
Gazza Dazzla said:
Yea, maybe I wasn’t clear in my original post? My query was whether NFL and other hosting were classed as part of match day revenue.

where I was mentioning match day revenue for the goons was in the context that last years accounts had barely any MD rev due to Covid so if ours was estimated at being a 122m bump in revenue this season then how much of a bump would the Goons get, I was guesstimating 70m. However that guess would be dépendant on whether our 122m rev includes NFL or not.

clear as mud?
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Gotcha. I think.

I very much doubt that NFL and so on would be counted in match day revenue, but they'd definitely be counted as part of the club's overall revenue.
 
Lilbaz said:
Swiss ramble estimates we'll get £122m matchday revenue this season. Compared to £2m last season.
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Indeed we will…. But PL TV money was also paid forward so that will be down this season, as will our money earned from UEFA competition.

I posted a reasonably well thought out (for me anyway!) analysis of our likely financials this year a good while back, can’t remember what I estimated for this year now though…. I might try to dig out my old post.
 
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Finney Is Back said:
Indeed we will…. But PL TV money was also paid forward so that will be down this season, as will our money earned from UEFA competition.

I posted a reasonably well thought out (for me anyway!) analysis of our likely financials this year a good while back, can’t remember what I estimated for this year now though…. I might try to dig out my old post.
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Yes the deferred payments for tv will mean we see a £35m drop. Dropping from el to ecl will mostly be offset by extra money from player sales.
 
Bored so thought i'd see from the last accounts who'd have to do the most to be in line with the new rules. Obviously covid had an impact and players have been bought and sold since. But anyway these are the percentages of revenue clubs spent on amortisation + wages. Only did italian and english teams.

Napoli 144%
Roma 130%
Juve 111%
Arse 108%
Lazio 101%
Milan 98%
Chelsea 97%
Inter 93%
Man Utd 91%
Liverpool 90%
Emirates Marketing Project 87%
Spurs 77%
Atalanta 74%
 
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Just realised, academy players will now be massively important. They have £0 amortisation as you didn't pay for them. This can offset other signings.
 
Lilbaz said:
Bored so thought i'd see from the last accounts who'd have to do the most to be in line with the new rules. Obviously covid had an impact and players have been bought and sold since. But anyway these are the percentages of revenue clubs spent on amortisation + wages. Only did italian and english teams.

Napoli 144%
Roma 130%
Juve 111%
Arse 108%
Lazio 101%
Man Utd 100%
Milan 98%
Chelsea 97%
Inter 93%
Liverpool 90%
Emirates Marketing Project 87%
Spurs 77%
Atalanta 74%
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Thanks for putting this together.

Surprised these changes aren’t getting more of a spotlight. Represents a pretty huge change to the status quo if the calculations above are correct, and the changes are actually enforced.

Separate question: what are all the clubs going to start spending the rest of the 30% of their turnover on?! (Obviously some will go on the costs of running the club / company, but there’ll surely be a lot left over).
 
So if I’m reading this properly City/Chelsea/PSG could be hit hardest by this as their income is fairly low against what they actually spend?
 
elltrev said:
Thanks for putting this together.

Surprised these changes aren’t getting more of a spotlight. Represents a pretty huge change to the status quo if the calculations above are correct, and the changes are actually enforced.

Separate question: what are all the clubs going to start spending the rest of the 30% of their turnover on?! (Obviously some will go on the costs of running the club / company, but there’ll surely be a lot left over).
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Academy, womens teams, stadium, non playing staff wages, training ground, police, tax, catering etc...
 
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