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Transfer speculation

Neymars move is catalyst for lots of stuff to go down. I just wish we make our moves now before Liverpool likely to come into money and arsenal who need to trim a bloated squad can react. Now is the time to lay some cards on the table
 
Neymars move is catalyst for lots of stuff to go down. I just wish we make our moves now before Liverpool likely to come into money and arsenal who need to trim a bloated squad can react. Now is the time to lay some cards on the table

I wish we had done weeks/months ago! I remember when we signed Modric very well (before the end of May?) it felt like a statement of intent and actually this season there would have been more benefit being literally the first one out of the blocks before all the stupid prices started being announced and therefore inflating expectations
 
I wish we had done weeks/months ago! I remember when we signed Modric very well (before the end of May?) it felt like a statement of intent and actually this season there would have been more benefit being literally the first one out of the blocks before all the stupid prices started being announced and therefore inflating expectations

I think we signed Modric during the season,in April iirc......he actually came to a game with his agent just before he put own to paper that very Saturday
 
I think we signed Modric during the season,in April iirc......he actually came to a game with his agent just before he put own to paper that very Saturday

sounds right - very late season rather than before window had properly started
 
Klopp doesnt want him though, he said there are no better CB's out there than what he has already :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused::confused:
They will just say that one of their CBs has picked up a knock, which couldn't have been foreseen so they need to bring another one in.
 
Neymars move is catalyst for lots of stuff to go down. I just wish we make our moves now before Liverpool likely to come into money and arsenal who need to trim a bloated squad can react. Now is the time to lay some cards on the table

Exactly. Its only going to inflate the market even more due to trickle down economics. We really need to secure our targets pdq.
 
Exactly. Its only going to inflate the market even more due to trickle down economics. We really need to secure our targets pdq.

Its a bit late for that!! The tactic appears to be to wait til late in the window in the hope that clubs wont want to hold on to unhappy players and will sell at a sensible price. Whether it works remains to be seen, however I'm sceptical given all the money sloshing around this summer
 
I wish we had done weeks/months ago! I remember when we signed Modric very well (before the end of May?) it felt like a statement of intent and actually this season there would have been more benefit being literally the first one out of the blocks before all the stupid prices started being announced and therefore inflating expectations
I think everyone saw the market exploding this summer. Unless we were trying to deal with idiots I don't think an early deal would have tricked anyone into selling cheaper.
Its a bit late for that!! The tactic appears to be to wait til late in the window in the hope that clubs wont want to hold on to unhappy players and will sell at a sensible price. Whether it works remains to be seen, however I'm sceptical given all the money sloshing around this summer
How about the Liverpool strategy of going out heavily early for players like Keita and VvD? Has worked a treat...

If the right player was available for the right price I'm confident that the club would have made it happen. Just like previous summers. It's more a case of players that are actually good enough for us being ever more difficult to find. And the competition for those players that are good enough rather extreme.
 
there are not enough talented players out there and thats why prices are going through the roof........

it is actually more sensible to trust in your own youth, the only problem is that you need patience to witness the fruits of this policy. In 2 or 3 years time KWP, Winks, Onomah and maybe Georgiou could be major players for us along as they are given plenty of game time to gain experience. If we now spend over 100 mill on buying average players who will come in and deny our young players the playing experience they need then not only are you wasting money but also destroying the youngsters development.
 
there are not enough talented players out there and thats why prices are going through the roof........

it is actually more sensible to trust in your own youth, the only problem is that you need patience to witness the fruits of this policy. In 2 or 3 years time KWP, Winks, Onomah and maybe Georgiou could be major players for us along as they are given plenty of game time to gain experience. If we now spend over 100 mill on buying average players who will come in and deny our young players the playing experience they need then not only are you wasting money but also destroying the youngsters development.

Just a question, mate, in good faith - if Georgiou hadn't vaguely impressed (not even in an 'Alli nutmegging Modric' sense - just looked mostly competent) in a few meaningless pre-season games, and if it had been some other youngster like Jack Roles instead... would you have included him in that list of fantastic youngsters that apparently justify not spending anything on 'average' players?

At the end of that logic lies the Wenger strategy between 2006 and 2012 - don't buy a single player because it would compromise Amaury Bischoff's career, or set Emmanuel Frimpong's prospects back, or damage the chance to afford playing time to some other Scum rando (Denilson, Henri Lansbury, Sanchez Watt, Nacer Barazite) who looks vaguely competent at first, then flounders hopelessly and is ultimately quietly sold off to Arsenal Tula in the Russian league. It's a strategy that worked so well that almost none of Arsenal's vaunted youth made it through, their first-team stars all left in a hurry because Wenger thought having the likes of Gilles Sunu as their backup was a splendid idea and they flounded in 4th feeling sorry for themselves - *until* Wenger started splashing the cash on genuinely good players (Sanchez, Ozil and co), and *lo and behold!*, they actually started winning things again.

At the very least, the excuse one can make for Wenger is that he had no choice because his hands were tied by the library. Yet, it irks me that people propose adopting essentially the same approach not just on the pragmatic level, but essentially on nothing more than blind faith that this time, our own academy can provide 100% of the players we need - that no one will prove below our level, or prove otherwise unable to replace the likes of Eriksen, Alli, Kane and Toby, or prove just unsuited to our team and our approach.

Onomah, Winks, KWP, CCV, even Georgiou and Jack Roles...these are talented youngsters who deserve and will get playing time. If not here, then elsewhere - at Villa in Onomah's case, for example. But there is a wide gap between saying that we should blood our youngsters where possible and saying that we should avoid spending money on 'average' players because KWP, Winks, Onomah and Georgiou 'could be' major players for us two or three years down the line. If Eriksen leaves because we flounder around with insufficient squad cover for a season or two....if Kane leaves, if Toby leaves, if Lloris leaves...the opportunity cost of ignoring those 'average' signings to trust in players who won't be ready for a long time, if at all, will be sorely felt. Both by us, and by the youngsters themselves - the damage done from a blind introduction without safety nets or alternatives to ease the pressure on them could harm them every bit as much as it could harm us.

And out of those players I've listed Toby, Lloris and Eriksen weren't born and bred youth - they were bought. The complaint of 'not enough talented players on the market' gets thrown around every summer, without fail, to justify the continually increasing spending that goes on. Yet, of our spine of players - hell, of our first eleven (Lloris, Trippier, Toby, Jan, Rose, Wanyama, Dembele, Eriksen, Alli, Son, Kane) only Kane is actually an academy product. All the rest were bought, many recently. It isn't fair to justify a lack of spending with the youth reasoning, given that reality - imo.
 
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