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Transfer Rumour Thread
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Re: Patrick Herrmann
Not sure that Baldini's opinion is going to count for much from now on.
Not sure that Baldini's opinion is going to count for much from now on.
glorygloryeze
Tom Huddlestone
Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
It was quite obvious last night that Bentaleb isnt the answer as the playmaker, he was scared to get on the ball and dominate, and if he cant do it against forest then... We've never replaced Modric, the deal with Joao Moutinho fell through which was terrible and since then we've not bought correctly in the midfield. I feel this urgently needs addressing in Jan. My main target would be Miralem Pjanić , the guy is top drawer and bloody Baldini has his number! Also, Moutinho isnt playing much at Monaco so perhaps we could go back in for him but i beleieve he's on more then 100k a week.
However, if we didnt want to spend big then if Michael Carrick was available in Jan for 8-10 million would you take back? I certainly would. Also, i think Jo Joe Shelby is really developing into a very good player, he's starting to run games, his passing range is good, and he can score goals. Would it be worth looking at him?
It was quite obvious last night that Bentaleb isnt the answer as the playmaker, he was scared to get on the ball and dominate, and if he cant do it against forest then... We've never replaced Modric, the deal with Joao Moutinho fell through which was terrible and since then we've not bought correctly in the midfield. I feel this urgently needs addressing in Jan. My main target would be Miralem Pjanić , the guy is top drawer and bloody Baldini has his number! Also, Moutinho isnt playing much at Monaco so perhaps we could go back in for him but i beleieve he's on more then 100k a week.
However, if we didnt want to spend big then if Michael Carrick was available in Jan for 8-10 million would you take back? I certainly would. Also, i think Jo Joe Shelby is really developing into a very good player, he's starting to run games, his passing range is good, and he can score goals. Would it be worth looking at him?
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Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
No to both.
Rather that our youth players are given a chance.
Mason, Carroll, Bentaleb.
If we're going to sign players, they must be of the highest quality or have the clear potential to be so. Carrick and Shelvey are just so-so. We have enough such midfielders already.
No to both.
Rather that our youth players are given a chance.
Mason, Carroll, Bentaleb.
If we're going to sign players, they must be of the highest quality or have the clear potential to be so. Carrick and Shelvey are just so-so. We have enough such midfielders already.
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
Ok, but i think your missing the point. We dont have a quality 'creative/player maker' in the squad so we need to buy one.. We need to look further a field in my view.
Ok, but i think your missing the point. We dont have a quality 'creative/player maker' in the squad so we need to buy one.. We need to look further a field in my view.
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
I'd like to give Mason a chance to prove that he could be the quality creative player that we need but fair enough if you think that we need to look further afield.
However, I don't think I am missing the point at all. Your post suggested that we should go for one or both of Carrick and Shelvey. I merely replied that, if we must bring in yet another midfielder, he has to be clearly better than what we already have. And neither Carrick nor Shelvey would be that player.
I'd like to give Mason a chance to prove that he could be the quality creative player that we need but fair enough if you think that we need to look further afield.
However, I don't think I am missing the point at all. Your post suggested that we should go for one or both of Carrick and Shelvey. I merely replied that, if we must bring in yet another midfielder, he has to be clearly better than what we already have. And neither Carrick nor Shelvey would be that player.
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Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
Hang on a minute. Early in Carrick's career it was said he flattered to deceive. Now you want to rule out Bentaleb because of one performance under pressure in a new system, in his first home start of the season and based on appearances last season in a complete circus under Sherwood and then this season in about 2 games. The guy is 19 and he hasn't even played a full season.
Wow, i mean just wow. I hate football sometimes (but I love it).
It was quite obvious last night that Bentaleb isnt the answer as the playmaker, he was scared to get on the ball and dominate, and if he cant do it against forest then... We've never replaced Modric, the deal with Joao Moutinho fell through which was terrible and since then we've not bought correctly in the midfield. I feel this urgently needs addressing in Jan. My main target would be Miralem Pjanić , the guy is top drawer and bloody Baldini has his number! Also, Moutinho isnt playing much at Monaco so perhaps we could go back in for him but i beleieve he's on more then 100k a week.
However, if we didnt want to spend big then if Michael Carrick was available in Jan for 8-10 million would you take back? I certainly would. Also, i think Jo Joe Shelby is really developing into a very good player, he's starting to run games, his passing range is good, and he can score goals. Would it be worth looking at him?
Hang on a minute. Early in Carrick's career it was said he flattered to deceive. Now you want to rule out Bentaleb because of one performance under pressure in a new system, in his first home start of the season and based on appearances last season in a complete circus under Sherwood and then this season in about 2 games. The guy is 19 and he hasn't even played a full season.
Wow, i mean just wow. I hate football sometimes (but I love it).
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
Absolutely.
It's barely credible the stick that Bentaleb gets from some quarters.
As you say, he's only 19.
Ledley King had some stinkers at 19. Imagine if our crowd back in the late nineties / early noughties had been like it is now and had got on his back....
Absolutely.
It's barely credible the stick that Bentaleb gets from some quarters.
As you say, he's only 19.
Ledley King had some stinkers at 19. Imagine if our crowd back in the late nineties / early noughties had been like it is now and had got on his back....
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
No, just NO!
It was quite obvious last night that Bentaleb isnt the answer as the playmaker, he was scared to get on the ball and dominate, and if he cant do it against forest then... We've never replaced Modric, the deal with Joao Moutinho fell through which was terrible and since then we've not bought correctly in the midfield. I feel this urgently needs addressing in Jan. My main target would be Miralem Pjanić , the guy is top drawer and bloody Baldini has his number! Also, Moutinho isnt playing much at Monaco so perhaps we could go back in for him but i beleieve he's on more then 100k a week.
However, if we didnt want to spend big then if Michael Carrick was available in Jan for 8-10 million would you take back? I certainly would. Also, i think Jo Joe Shelby is really developing into a very good player, he's starting to run games, his passing range is good, and he can score goals. Would it be worth looking at him?
No, just NO!
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
have you ever watched him not on highlights? He does do good things but from what I have seen (not many but from L'pool & Swansea fans opionon as well) he is a MOTD player - he will make good contribution but a lot of crap - would rather have kept Holtby.
have you ever watched him not on highlights? He does do good things but from what I have seen (not many but from L'pool & Swansea fans opionon as well) he is a MOTD player - he will make good contribution but a lot of crap - would rather have kept Holtby.
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Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
30 mill for Schneiderlin.........also, 10 mill for Claise. Clear out Paulinho, Dembele, Capoue for a combined 25-35 mill . Job done. Schneiderlin, Stambouli, Claise, Bentaleb and mason
30 mill for Schneiderlin.........also, 10 mill for Claise. Clear out Paulinho, Dembele, Capoue for a combined 25-35 mill . Job done. Schneiderlin, Stambouli, Claise, Bentaleb and mason
Finney Is Back
Andy Thompson
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
I would have Carrick back in place of Capoue all day long as I think Carrick is the master of playing that sort of role.... However I'm not sure that Carrick is player to play in the role you are earmarking him for. I think that player has to be quite mobile and really prepared to press. Ideally to play this role I think we would probably be looking at an Aaron Ramsey type and Shelvey is probably more the sort of player for that role I agree.
My thoughts are that, where you have written him off, Bentaleb is actually a player that could grow into this role.
However if you are looking for a 'gettable' player as an alternative then I think Delph at Villa probably has all of the attributes required - in that he is mobile, quite pacy, decent on the ball, likes to put in a tackle and really seems to have a certain confidence about him.
I would have Carrick back in place of Capoue all day long as I think Carrick is the master of playing that sort of role.... However I'm not sure that Carrick is player to play in the role you are earmarking him for. I think that player has to be quite mobile and really prepared to press. Ideally to play this role I think we would probably be looking at an Aaron Ramsey type and Shelvey is probably more the sort of player for that role I agree.
My thoughts are that, where you have written him off, Bentaleb is actually a player that could grow into this role.
However if you are looking for a 'gettable' player as an alternative then I think Delph at Villa probably has all of the attributes required - in that he is mobile, quite pacy, decent on the ball, likes to put in a tackle and really seems to have a certain confidence about him.
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
You obviously dont go to many games.. We've seen Bentaleb play for a good season now, he played alot of games under Sherwood last season and he's neither a holding player or creative midfielder. I personally think he's talented, poch has him in his second string and he's not making the league side at the moment but we need someone AHEAD of him NOW.
He would learn alot from the likes of Pjenic, Michael Carrick i'm telling you. We should be looking to bring more experience in there.
You obviously dont go to many games.. We've seen Bentaleb play for a good season now, he played alot of games under Sherwood last season and he's neither a holding player or creative midfielder. I personally think he's talented, poch has him in his second string and he's not making the league side at the moment but we need someone AHEAD of him NOW.
He would learn alot from the likes of Pjenic, Michael Carrick i'm telling you. We should be looking to bring more experience in there.
Modric THFC
Jimmy McCormick
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
Bentalebs not supposed to be playmaker. If Poch was interested in a playmaker in his midfield he's be playing Carroll or Eriksen in there.
Benteleb however is a more creative player and much better at picking out passes than Capoue, Dembele, Paulinho and Mason.
Bentalebs not supposed to be playmaker. If Poch was interested in a playmaker in his midfield he's be playing Carroll or Eriksen in there.
Benteleb however is a more creative player and much better at picking out passes than Capoue, Dembele, Paulinho and Mason.
Re: Michael Carrick / JonJo Shelvey
I'm not sure that he's better at it than Mason.
I'm not sure that he's better at it than Mason.