***TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR vs Leeds OMT***

[Bishop]

Struggling with this point of view. You don’t score a goal by the action of shooting it’s the consequences of it going into the net.

Take the logic to it's natural end. If I go in two footed but it doesn't hurt the player does that mean I shouldn't get a yellow? What if I give you a slight bump ie. A nothing foul but your studs catch and fit break your leg? Should I now get sent off because my action caused your serious injury?

So no we shouldn't be adjudicating on the consequences, the severity of the challenge is a enough of a gauge not how strong or weak the receiving player is.

 

[Raziel]

Take the logic to it's natural end. If I go in two footed but it doesn't hurt the player does that mean I shouldn't get a yellow? What if I give you a slight bump ie. A nothing foul but your studs catch and fit break your leg? Should I now get sent off because my action caused your serious injury?

So no we shouldn't be adjudicating on the consequences, the severity of the challenge is a enough of a gauge not how strong or weak the receiving player is.

consequences and intent (in my opinion) are irrelevant.

players have a responsibility to understand lack of control, timing, speed, misjudgement are all things that can put their opponent at risk (beyond just a foul) and should be punished (not the stupid pundit/media brick of "oh, where was he supposed to put his foot", if you couldn't figure out where to put your foot safely, you fudged up).

Studs, hight, positioning, are you even playing the fudging ball, are all easy to gauge and therefore easy to build consistency of decision on. Xavi was red, Mateta was red, then Bogle is red ..

 

[Bishop]

consequences and intent (in my opinion) are irrelevant.

players have a responsibility to understand lack of control, timing, speed, misjudgement are all things that can put their opponent at risk (beyond just a foul) and should be punished (not the stupid pundit/media brick of "oh, where was he supposed to put his foot", if you couldn't figure out where to put your foot safely, you fudged up).

Studs, hight, positioning, are you even playing the fudging ball, are all easy to gauge and therefore easy to build consistency of decision on. Xavi was red, Mateta was red, then Bogle is red ..

I agree with your sentiment I just disagree on the severity of the challenges. For me, all three are yellows rather than reds but at the very least if you are giving those kinds of challenges as reds then be consistent with it.