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Tottenham Hotspur v Arsenal OMT

2-1 win
2-1 win
3-2 win
3-3 draw

All 4-4-2........except the first half at The Emirates, when we were 2-0 down......with one up front #-o
 
I disagree - we should fight.

Ill tell you why we are not. in 451 we have to play VDV and as we all know VDV is fairly slow and we attack with pace which generally means he isnt up with play when we counter. Ade as we all know is not very prolific either. Nor is Lennon.

By playing 442 we have Ade and Saha/Defoe who are both box type players and will be up with play when we attack.

SIMPLES SIMPLES SIMPLES


imo :

_____Parker Modric
Lennon ___VdV____Bale
_______Adebayor

is stronger than

Lennon Modric Parker Bale
______Saha Adebayor


i don't see lining up with 442 as the more "lets give a right go" formation that some of you seem to think it is or that by lining up 451 we are some how being negative - i don't get that view on the formations tbh - they both have their uses and both have pro's and con's.
 
Well, whether we go with 4-4-2 or some variant of having only one striker, VDV has to start.

BUT why does he have to start? i bet he isnt match fit. Hell i bet he isnt even 100% physically fit. He has a good record against the Arse but history doesnt really mean he will be brilliant this time round.
 
imo :

_____Parker Modric
Lennon ___VdV____Bale
_______Adebayor

is stronger than

Lennon Modric Parker Bale
______Saha Adebayor


i don't see lining up with 442 as the more "lets give a right go" formation that some of you seem to think it is or that by lining up 451 we are some how being negative - i don't get that view on the formations tbh - they both have their uses and both have pro's and con's.


I dont think 442 is the more "lets give a right go" formation I just see it as there is one additional pacier goalscorer. Saha/Defoe are more prone to be up there in the box than VDV.

I do think Harry will go for 442 with Saha up top. Thats my view. i wouldnt be surprised if he plays VDV though.
 
BUT why does he have to start? i bet he isnt match fit. Hell i bet he isnt even 100% physically fit. He has a good record against the Arse but history doesnt really mean he will be brilliant this time round.

first name on the teamsheet for a NLD for me - he is built for matches like these
 
imo :

i don't see lining up with 442 as the more "lets give a right go" formation that some of you seem to think it is or that by lining up 451 we are some how being negative - i don't get that view on the formations tbh - they both have their uses and both have pro's and con's.

Where has anyone said that?

I want a 442 because I think we would rip them to shreds down the flanks, and we have two players in the middle highly capable of keeping the ball, and distributing it out wide, as not to get swamped.

Nothing to do with 451 being negative. No one has said anything of the sort.
 
Harry Redknapp, the Tottenham Hotspur manager, has issued a three-pronged directive to Arsenal fans ahead of tomorrow's north London derby at the Emirates Stadium.

The first message was simple enough: that his current club intended to maintain their status as London's top club to the end of the season and beyond. Indeed, victory would extend their current points advantage over Arsenal to 13.

"We are sitting in front of them at the moment, it's a healthy lead for sure," he said. "We would have all taken a 10-point lead with 13 games to go, wouldn't we? I want to finish above Arsenal and Chelsea [who also trail by 10 points ahead of today's game against Bolton] this year, that's really important. If we can finish above the Manchester clubs then that would be even better. That is very difficult but we are still there, it is not impossible."

Arsenal will go into the game reeling from setbacks at home and abroad as patchy form in the Premier League has been accompanied by an FA Cup exit at Sunderland and a 4-0 loss at Milan in the first leg of a Champions League tie that is surely beyond redemption.

Ars?¿ne Wenger, the manager, finds himself under increasing pressure as supporters who believed he could do no wrong just a few months ago are now coming to the conclusion that the Frenchman's time must soon be up.

Redknapp, a childhood Arsenal fan himself, was clear over his second message to the Emirates faithful, which amounted to "be careful what you wish for". "They can't do any better than what they've got, can they?" he said. "They can't replace Wenger. He has been amazing the job he has done there. They have had fantastic times. Fifteen years of Champions League football. It's incredible."

Redknapp, who has seen Rafael van der Vaart, Luka Modric, Benoit Assou-Ekotto and Emmanuel Adebayor all passed fit, backed Wenger to come through his current woes, just as Sir Alex Ferguson came through his in the 1990s when the likes of Conservative MP turned radio pundit David Mellor were stirring up dissent.

"We've seen Fergie get it haven't we?" Redknapp mused. "I heard people say a few years ago after they got beat somewhere – I remember them getting beat six at Southampton – that he had lost the plot. David Mellor was on saying: 'It's about time Fergie went, ring us up and tell us.' He is still going strong."

Redknapp's final message also had a nostalgic theme – a wish to return to the days when opposition supporters did not direct offensive chants at each other. Redknapp knows he will be a target himself, especially after his recent Crown Court tax evasion case.

Inevitably it will be former Arsenal forward Adebayor who will be on the end of most of the vitriol, with the game at White Hart Lane earlier in the season featuring chants from the away end about the player's survival of the gun attack on the Togo team coach in 2010.

"Why do people have to chant abuse and filth?" he asked. "I don't understand it, I don't know what it's about. We never used to do it when I was a kid. Last week we went to Stevenage, there was only a small crowd but people enjoyed the game and got behind the teams. There was no filthy chanting."

Redknapp will also have a word with the combustible Adebayor and remind him of his responsibilities. "I'm sure it will be OK," he said.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/...intent-to-stay-capitals-top-dogs-7440547.html
 
Where has anyone said that?

I want a 442 because I think we would rip them to shreds down the flanks, and we have two players in the middle highly capable of keeping the ball, and distributing it out wide, as not to get swamped.

Nothing to do with 451 being negative. No one has said anything of the sort.

So why does VDV not fit into this?
 
How interesting. I've just remembered that the last proper hot weekend of 2011 was the NLD weekend and the first nice weekend of 2012 is the NLD.

A sign, maybe?
 
BUT why does he have to start? i bet he isnt match fit. Hell i bet he isnt even 100% physically fit. He has a good record against the Arse but history doesnt really mean he will be brilliant this time round.

Maybe the best winning mentality in the club, tonnes of big game experience and loves playing (and scoring and assisting) against Arsenal. What is there not to like?
 
Where has anyone said that?

I want a 442 because I think we would rip them to shreds down the flanks, and we have two players in the middle highly capable of keeping the ball, and distributing it out wide, as not to get swamped.

Nothing to do with 451 being negative. No one has said anything of the sort.

out of your bolded reasons for 442 - which of those do you not get with a 451 ?

wingers - check
two strong players in the middle highly capable of distributing the ball/keeping the ball - check



anyway, i don't care how we line up - we'll do em regardless
 
I think totman is getting VDV confused with Sandro, or possibly Cudicini. VDV is the one that plays near Adebayor and scores/assists goals and is greatly involved in our play.
 
So why does VDV not fit into this?

He does when 100% fit and on form, but I think we have three strikers, looking sharp, and it will add a direct element to our game. We can outpace them on the wings, and any one of Saha or Defoe partnering Ade will give their CBs no chance.

I think this is game we should take to them, instead of going for the measured patient approach.

VDV would be an option for late on, imo.
 
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