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Thomas Frank - Former Head Coach

Legohamster said:
Just backs up the thought some of the playing squad are a disgrace as a well as Frank not being up to it.

In a relegation battle and doing this?

Whoever is next needs to wipe out that changing room and stop the

A squad with a large number of dislikable players.
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I think these players have been sorely let down by management and board. They didn't display the ultimate mutiny (ignoring what he told them to do) and tried to apply those tactics until the final whistle last night. Some will be moved on, but I hope we can somehow convince the likes of Romero and VdV to stick around; it will be a tall order.
 
Junior19 said:
Confirms what most of us saw with our own eyes, and called out here on the forum way back in august. (yes, I checked! Check Bournemouth-matchthread, for one)

And this has been one of the major gripes for a lot of us. I expect more such stories to emerge.
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It was clear as day. One hopes to be wrong and one hopes it turns around, but that is hope and fandom speaking; the eye-test is generally solid.
 
suffolkspur said:
The performances and results suggested something was amiss but its still somewhat surprising to read just how bad things appear to have been behind the scenes. I guess we have seen visible signs for a while with the incidents involving Van De Ven and Spence as examples but it sounds like the players haven't bought into Frank and his tactics at all and have felt shackled.

Biggest surprise reading this is that the board stuck with him for so long, but i guess they can say that they gave him every opportunity to turn things around even if that was never going to happen.
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Of course mate.
Essentially, they won a trophy, then saw themselves essentially being told they got lucky, that everything had to change, and that we were actually not 'building on a foundation' but were in the middle of a rebuild which was going to take a long time. Add to that pressers where being in the CL was written off and our league position last year was used as 'protection' for bricky performances, and yup, those players were going to turn pretty fast.

Rudderless leadership. They even left their mate in the lurch IMO, left him hanging. Even their statement was drippy.
 
Jurgen the German said:
Spot on. Clubs that know what they’re doing have continuity in style of play when they change managers:

Arsenal - Wenger > Emery > Arteta

Liverpool - Rodgers > Klopp > Slot

Ok so not like for like but they’re not radically different from the previous guy and they all play on the front foot.
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You think Arteta plays in the front foot? Or even more ridiculously, is similar in style to Wenger?
 
Whoever comes in, here's what they should say,

"This is a giant club having a tough moment. The talent here is unbelievable, the supporters here are among the best in football, the stadium is world class, we are in the Champions League, and we all need to take a deep breath and get back to who and Tottenham Hotspur are, play football our way, and when all those factors combine, this period will soon be a distant memory. The talent here is unbelievable, so there is not a shadow of doubt that they will have the opportunity to show that under me..."

I don't care if it is 100% accurate, it is positive, it is a statement, and it gets away from rubbish like 'you will lose games of football' and 'are we really a CL club? We finished 17th last season'.

I am also available for wedding speeches and presentations...
 
Yiddo said:
That statement is pretty much telling me that the club wanted to give him time but had to let him go due to the pressure from the stands.
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Well the board can take the blame. As they didn't help Frank in the slightest. I am honestly sick of this lot and their hollow words. I care for nothing they say. Means brick all
 
thfcsteff said:
Whoever comes in, here's what they should say,

"This is a giant club having a tough moment. The talent here is unbelievable, the supporters here are among the best in football, the stadium is world class, we are in the Champions League, and we all need to take a deep breath and get back to who and Tottenham Hotspur are, play football our way, and when all those factors combine, this period will soon be a distant memory. The talent here is unbelievable, so there is not a shadow of doubt that they will have the opportunity to show that under me..."

I don't care if it is 100% accurate, it is positive, it is a statement, and it gets away from rubbish like 'you will lose games of football' and 'are we really a CL club? We finished 17th last season'.

I am also available for wedding speeches and presentations...
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This is exactly right. So much of football, life, and leadership, is about self-belief - not just your own, but giving the people you lead and look after the self-belief to feel like they matter and that they can take on the world and win.

Do that, make them feel like you're in their corner, and they will run through brick walls for you. It doesn't even matter all that much if you're naturally charismatic or not - it helps, but it isn't the be-all and end-all. The message is.

Some of the stuff coming out about Frank today absolutely screams that he didn't do that. Saying only Porro could make it at a top club, for instance - these players *won a European trophy*, for GHod's sake. You tell them that and they are going to look at you with utter disdain, because you've won nothing at all, have never managed a top club, and are still doing them down.

Or that 'we will 100% lose games' stuff. There's two crucial parts of any manager's job at Spurs - political, in the sense of managing the expectations of the fans and the board, and man-management - managing the expectations of the players.

It seems like Frank failed at both. it didn't help him coming after Ange, who was a masterfully political operator, but GHod, did he not help himself.
 
thfcsteff said:
Whoever comes in, here's what they should say,

"This is a giant club having a tough moment. The talent here is unbelievable, the supporters here are among the best in football, the stadium is world class, we are in the Champions League, and we all need to take a deep breath and get back to who and Tottenham Hotspur are, play football our way, and when all those factors combine, this period will soon be a distant memory. The talent here is unbelievable, so there is not a shadow of doubt that they will have the opportunity to show that under me..."

I don't care if it is 100% accurate, it is positive, it is a statement, and it gets away from rubbish like 'you will lose games of football' and 'are we really a CL club? We finished 17th last season'.

I am also available for wedding speeches and presentations...
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Whatever you do don't read Steffs post in your best Sherwood voice.......

doesn't quite land the same. :)
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
Whatever you do don't read Steffs post in your best Sherwood voice.......

doesn't quite land the same. :)
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Dunno why, but in my head, when I'm reading Steff's posts, I always subconsciously think he sounds like Dan Louw, the guy who made all those Spurs Away Days videos in the mid-2010s. Just something about the often poetic way he writes.

First time listening to him on the podcast was certainly a surprise in that sense! :D
 
SteveAWOL said:
Sounds like the perfect fit for us!

www.bbc.co.uk

Ajax to sack manager John Heitinga less than six months after Liverpool exit

Ajax have sacked manager John Heitinga after 15 matches and less than six months after he joined the club from Liverpool.
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Ajax have announced they will sack manager John Heitinga less than six months after he joined the club from Liverpool.

Heitinga, 41, won just five of his 11 Eredivisie matches in charge of the Amsterdam club who sit eight points adrift of league leaders Feyenoord.

Ajax have lost all four of their Champions League matches this season, including a 3-0 home defeat to Galatasaray on Wednesday.
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You have to wonder why we hired him?
 
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