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The "Why" thread

It's hard to argue with any of that. Yet, I've started coming around to the idea that all of these beliefs do come from somewhere, and are not just our human mind's imagination. Einstein received his ideas in dreams, for instance. Da Vinci said his ideas came from inspiration, the same as the ancient greek, inspiration meaning something like "given from GHod" or something like that.

I just think these ideas and systems come from somewhere and not just out of thin air. I don't think Buddhism, for instance, came about from a fluke, and that meditation has proven to be an excellent method for calming down minds and giving practioners clarity. All the books written, ceremonies, rituals, ornamentation, deep archetypical stories found all over the world - all just out of "imagination" as if taking from a blank. What is imagination anyways? We seem to think its just something we come up with out of nowhere. Who knows, but I dont think so.

But again, what the fudge do I know. I have no scientific basis for this, obviously. I just think there is something more or higher incomprehensible to us that is influencing us more than we would like to think.

Hahah yeh I don't know, its just my best guess.
 
It's hard to argue with any of that. Yet, I've started coming around to the idea that all of these beliefs do come from somewhere, and are not just our human mind's imagination. Einstein received his ideas in dreams, for instance. Da Vinci said his ideas came from inspiration, the same as the ancient greek, inspiration meaning something like "given from GHod" or something like that.

I just think these ideas and systems come from somewhere and not just out of thin air. I don't think Buddhism, for instance, came about from a fluke, and that meditation has proven to be an excellent method for calming down minds and giving practioners clarity. All the books written, ceremonies, rituals, ornamentation, deep archetypical stories found all over the world - all just out of "imagination" as if taking from a blank. What is imagination anyways? We seem to think its just something we come up with out of nowhere. Who knows, but I dont think so.

But again, what the fudge do I know. I have no scientific basis for this, obviously. I just think there is something more or higher incomprehensible to us that is influencing us more than we would like to think.

Dreams are your brain’s way of trying to make sense of information. You have thousands of dreams a year. You don’t remember the vast majority. There is no reason for them to be thought of as messages from another realm.

Einstein’s dream was about cows and electric fences and different ‘ Relative’ viewpoints to an event. Can’t buy into an inspirational agent for that personally.

Meditation is the same - it gives the brain breathing space to run through ideas and combinations of thought by eliminating the core override of worrying about the immediate surrounding environments.
 
I think principles and emotions have to be seperate. Principles are what you believe. Emotions are what you feel.
 
I think principles and emotions have to be seperate. Principles are what you believe. Emotions are what you feel.
Of course they are separate. But emotions can be influenced by both internal and external factors which have no relevance to what the emotion is being applied to.
 
Emotions can certainly be wrong/mis-leading.

Much better to live your life by strong principles than emotions.

I think in big decisions you absolutely have to operate with fact-v-assumption-v-emotions. Vital. I think assumptions are responsible for so many things going wildly off-course in both local and 'bigger' life. There are times when I'm fine allowing emotions lead my life (when Brennan's scuffing goals in during Finals!) but I agree, the better way is to live by principles.

n.b. one of the hardest things to navigate is the dialectic. In nearly every situation there are two truths. Even if there's clearly only one by our own moral code or set of principles, there is someone who simply does not see it the same way and who has their own truth. I've always thought if we could work harder to try and first of all see how someone could view 'said situation' from such an opposite perspective, we might then be able to get on a path of agreement. Trust me, I am very much trying to learn that along with most of us (i.e. not trying to claim any high ground here whatsoever), just sort of throwing out there how alarming such situations can be initially.
 
Dreams are your brain’s way of trying to make sense of information. You have thousands of dreams a year. You don’t remember the vast majority. There is no reason for them to be thought of as messages from another realm.

Einstein’s dream was about cows and electric fences and different ‘ Relative’ viewpoints to an event. Can’t buy into an inspirational agent for that personally.

Meditation is the same - it gives the brain breathing space to run through ideas and combinations of thought by eliminating the core override of worrying about the immediate surrounding environments.

We still don't really know what dreams are or their function, but one can of course describe them that way, as with meditation. I'm not really arguing against the physical description of phenonena in this world, but just because we can describe phenomena around us from our observations and calculations doesn't necessarily mean we have the absolute truth about them, especially, in my opinion, phenomena pertaining to the human experience/perception/consciousness.
 
Nothing to do with the thread really but I like this quote.


"Man surprised me most about humanity.Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived"

Dalai Lama.
 
Nothing to do with the thread really but I like this quote.


"Man surprised me most about humanity.Because he sacrifices his health in order to make money. Then he sacrifices money to recuperate his health.And then he is so anxious about the future that he does not enjoy the present; the result being that he does not live in the present or the future; he lives as if he is never going to die, and then dies having never really lived"

Dalai Lama.

SO much truth in that.......I often think about the bigger picture to life and how just by simply being born into a life you are somehow on the back foot from the start. So much to think about on what makes a fulfilled life, is it how you live, the money you have or the experiences you put yourself through. I saw the Scorsese documentary trailer earlier which got me thinking from a quote "am I intrinsically a good man or an evil man, I wrestle with that every day"
 
SO much truth in that.......I often think about the bigger picture to life and how just by simply being born into a life you are somehow on the back foot from the start. So much to think about on what makes a fulfilled life, is it how you live, the money you have or the experiences you put yourself through. I saw the Scorsese documentary trailer earlier which got me thinking from a quote "am I intrinsically a good man or an evil man, I wrestle with that every day"

I am not religious but I 100% live by the Christian mantra of 'do unto others as you would have them do unto you'.

I treat EVERYBODY the same until they give me reason not to.
 
SO much truth in that.......I often think about the bigger picture to life and how just by simply being born into a life you are somehow on the back foot from the start. So much to think about on what makes a fulfilled life, is it how you live, the money you have or the experiences you put yourself through. I saw the Scorsese documentary trailer earlier which got me thinking from a quote "am I intrinsically a good man or an evil man, I wrestle with that every day"

I always put time before money because it is my nature.

Recently, I have allowed myself permission to 'give in' to an impulse being sent by my environment. If a sunset catches me in a certain way, I stop what I'm doing and either drive to a view or simply watch from where I am. If a bird or insect catches my eye, I take an extra few minutes to look at them and consider their lives, their designs, their beauty. I was never able to sit still and just let things be, even for a minute. Now I do so daily. And maybe the biggest thing has been realising how little I can control versus not paying enough attention to the things I actually CAN control. It's exciting to know how much more there is to learn, and how the seemingly simple things are genuinely among the most fulfilling...again, love that quote @Nutter-Naylor (BTW, if anyone is interested and does not know the name Terry Naylor, look him up. An unsung Spurs cult hero for sure!)...
 
I always put time before money because it is my nature.

Recently, I have allowed myself permission to 'give in' to an impulse being sent by my environment. If a sunset catches me in a certain way, I stop what I'm doing and either drive to a view or simply watch from where I am. If a bird or insect catches my eye, I take an extra few minutes to look at them and consider their lives, their designs, their beauty. I was never able to sit still and just let things be, even for a minute. Now I do so daily. And maybe the biggest thing has been realising how little I can control versus not paying enough attention to the things I actually CAN control. It's exciting to know how much more there is to learn, and how the seemingly simple things are genuinely among the most fulfilling...again, love that quote @Nutter-Naylor (BTW, if anyone is interested and does not know the name Terry Naylor, look him up. An unsung Spurs cult hero for sure!)...
Meathook......proper nickname
 
I always put time before money because it is my nature.

Recently, I have allowed myself permission to 'give in' to an impulse being sent by my environment. If a sunset catches me in a certain way, I stop what I'm doing and either drive to a view or simply watch from where I am. If a bird or insect catches my eye, I take an extra few minutes to look at them and consider their lives, their designs, their beauty. I was never able to sit still and just let things be, even for a minute. Now I do so daily. And maybe the biggest thing has been realising how little I can control versus not paying enough attention to the things I actually CAN control. It's exciting to know how much more there is to learn, and how the seemingly simple things are genuinely among the most fulfilling...again, love that quote @Nutter-Naylor (BTW, if anyone is interested and does not know the name Terry Naylor, look him up. An unsung Spurs cult hero for sure!)...

Nutter-Naylor is a proper terrace legend. Especially among the more 'lively' types. Met him a couple of times at signings etc.
 
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