Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Get him, zakaira and Thuram from the same club, the one I cant pronounce and it would be an amazing window.
Seriously every time I try and say that clubs name I end up with a mouth full of spit.
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The transfer window thread.
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Get him, zakaira and Thuram from the same club, the one I cant pronounce and it would be an amazing window.
Seriously every time I try and say that clubs name I end up with a mouth full of spit.
NoLimits01
Goran Bunjevcevic
What about typing it?
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Berby was a great player and his first touch was as good as any player i have seen.
Bishop
John Lacy
Kane is the by far better goal scorer. I'd even say their attributes are quite different. Berba leaning more towards creativity and link up and Kane obviously finishing.
Both fantastic players of course, but a team with Berba probably does need a striker partner as Berba alone isn't going to get you enough goals.
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
In the modern game strikers are not as relied upon for goals but Berba would make modern WF fly
Bishop
John Lacy
Erk I disagree with you there. Look at any of the successful teams they will have a striker on 20+ goals in addition to any link or creative play. Berba was a great player who would be a great player for our squad right now but honestly I'd rather have Kane.
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Pool are smashing that logic then
Arguably Barca too
Danishfurniturelover
the prettiest spice girl
Spit on the screen. Not the only thing that makes me do this.
Bishop
John Lacy
They are?
Messi 50 goals a season guy + Luis Suarez who has scored 20+ every season he's been at Barca.
Liverpool have Salah with 20+ and Mane and Firminho approaching that figure.
You may have misunderstood because I didn't say a succesful team needs an old fashioned No9 which Kane isn't even that.
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Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
Messi plays as a WF
Salad plays as a WF
Mane plays as a WF
I’ll admit that I thought Suárez scored less in the league
Firmino has never hit twenty in his career I believe
Berbatov as a 9 with son and another would be amazing
Not necessarily better than Kane though. I prefer Kane who has an outstanding all round game
parklane1
Tony Galvin
Berby was here for two full seasons and scored 23 goals in each one.
Bishop
John Lacy
Messi hasn't played WF for 5 years other than a small spell last season. Besides as I said to you earlier you're misunderstanding, I'm not talking about an orthodox 9. In Liverpools traditional 433 Salah is a much a striker as Kane is.
Not in the league he didn't, 15 goals in one season and 12 the next both are average at best returns for a striker. He did of course compensate with his wonderful link play and creativity. 23 goals total across all comps is pretty low for a top striker which is why in goal scoring terms alone he wasn't one.
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parklane1
Tony Galvin
I was just responding to your earlier post which included "Look at any of the successful teams they will have a striker on 20+ goals in addition to any link or creative play" you never specified just lge goals. If you had done it would have made it clearer.
Bishop
John Lacy
Yeah I should have made it clear, when I talk about goals I'm always only talking about league goals as extra comps can be deceptive but the league is a good and fair comparison point.
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parklane1
Tony Galvin
Fair enough.
Bedfordspurs
Mark Falco
I get your logic but people don’t call salad a striker or mane or messi or Ronaldo. Their now known as wide forwards or simply attackers. Son is the same for us as he doesn’t play number 9 all the time
SteveAWOL
Chris Jones
MKSpur
Christian Ziege
Technically it was as they won it quite regularly and it’s not often that the golden boot winner actually plays for the league winners!
I think he played his best stuff for us as he went into his shell a bit at United (the final insult was being dropped from the CL bench for Michael fudging Owen) When he was here he put a shift in to prove himself and when he realised he was a level above most of the players he played with an arrogance that made Fergie think he could be their Cantona, but whether it was the culmination of achieving his ‘dream’, the level of competition or Fergie’s management style he never looked the same there. Checking the web to see if my memory served me correctly I came across this:
A theme has developed whereby Berbatov has been deployed against lesser teams, but stood down when the heat of the battle is less tolerable. The most staggering statistic is that he has not started against a top-six opponent for 14 months. Since arriving on the final day of the 2008 summer transfer window, he has been left out of 41 of United's 66 big games, meaning finals, semi-finals, European knockout ties, the Club World Cup and league matches against Arsenal, Chelsea, Liverpool, Emirates Marketing Project and Spurs.
Here he also worked in a genuine partnership with Keane. If he’d played as the lone striker for us and took pens I’d expect him to hit 20 goals a season. The Bolton masterclass he gave when we were down to 10 was an example of possibilities of the lone striker who could hold the ball up and pose a goal threat before it became the norm!
On a side note I can see (and hope) Eriksen take a similar trajectory to his when he leaves us. I see similarities in both their technical ability and personalities and an ultra competitive cut throat environment with bigger personalities vying for their place is not the best place for an introvert to flourish.
Really bad example to pick, Son is a brilliant piece of business
- Picked up for 20M odd, latest valuation of him this week was 90M+
- He actually struggled early at Spurs which would indicate if we had picked him up with even less experience he might have failed completely.
Every club has player they have missed out on, how many of those the player and selling club would have actually agreed to final deal is another immeasurable.
Spurs of the last 10-15 years actually has made some pretty spectacular signings
Bishop
John Lacy
How it is a bad example when it fits exactly the scenario I mentioned? We were interested initially decided we didn't want to take the risk then waited until he had proven himself and then bought him for twice the fee he went for 2 years earlier? Whether he would have failed earlier or not is pure speculation.
We have made some great signings and some poor ones, I wouldnt say we particularly stand out in terms of exploiting the market. I would rank ourselves a level below the likes of Dortmund, Athletico, Sevilla, Monaco and even Leicester in recent years.
We don't have the funds to buy at the top of the market so we should take risks the market and I think our scouting department over the years has identified many a quality player but it is the acquisition side of the club that hasn't followed through on that identification.
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