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The Stats Thread

A genuine question @parklane1 - what do you think you are bringing to the conversation moaning about stats in a stats thread? If you don't get them, why not avoid the thread and leave it to people who do?
 
milo said:
A genuine question @parklane1 - what do you think you are bringing to the conversation moaning about stats in a stats thread? If you don't get them, why not avoid the thread and leave it to people who do?
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Read back through and you will see I am just answering other members posts. quick question with a quick answer, good enough for you?
 
parklane1 said:
Read back through and you will see I am just answering other members posts. quick question with a quick answer, good enough for you?
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I don't get it personally. All you are doing is criticising stats and those that have an interest in them.
 
milo said:
I don't get it personally. All you are doing is criticising stats and those that have an interest in them.
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No not really.


We have been down this road before and I have already said my piece elsewhere on here but I do not have I problem or a disbelief in stats .As I have explained to you ( if it was not you I apologise, or maybe I did not explain it well enough) but I have said it on here on a couple of occasions and I am surprised you have not noticed it before?. Because of my job I came across and used football stats nearly every day for over 30 years, and without a doubt they have a use in football and on occasions can help to plan things, and help set thing up. However they are also stats which are just numbers written down and can be misleading depending on how they are used.



Now the biggest problem I/we had was that there are those who believe everything they read ( not saying you personally, but you know that is true) There is a lot fresh air written about stats and some of them are just flimflam in the main scheme of things. Now of course everyone has a right to believe what they want and that is the same about everything,. but seeing as this is a forum for opinions and it seems that there are some who can say what they want even in threads that they have no real interest in ( the Bowie thread for one) I see no reason why I can not offer a opinion about something I have worked with for many years. And unless I am told by those who matter that I can not longer have a opinion on something then I shall continue giving that opinion.
 
parklane1 said:
No not really.


We have been down this road before and I have already said my piece elsewhere on here but I do not have I problem or a disbelief in stats .As I have explained to you ( if it was not you I apologise, or maybe I did not explain it well enough) but I have said it on here on a couple of occasions and I am surprised you have not noticed it before?. Because of my job I came across and used football stats nearly every day for over 30 years, and without a doubt they have a use in football and on occasions can help to plan things, and help set thing up. However they are also stats which are just numbers written down and can be misleading depending on how they are used.



Now the biggest problem I/we had was that there are those who believe everything they read ( not saying you personally, but you know that is true) There is a lot fresh air written about stats and some of them are just hogwash in the main scheme of things. Now of course everyone has a right to believe what they want and that is the same about everything,. but seeing as this is a forum for opinions and it seems that there are some who can say what they want even in threads that they have no real interest in ( the Bowie thread for one) I see no reason why I can not offer a opinion about something I have worked with for many years. And unless I am told by those who matter that I can not longer have a opinion on something then I shall continue giving that opinion.
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Was this before or after the enlightened era?
 
parklane1 said:
I do believe you are up to your normal.

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Nope, it's a genuine question.

The enlightened era is the term used to describe the period between around 2009/10 and now, when a large amount of data started getting recorded and analysed by statistical experts rather than hobbyists and football "experts"
 
I'm not really a stats man. I read them in passing but don't get all giddy about them.

However, looking at the goals scored/conceded from corners post, it has got me thinking, how many of the more telling/critical stats are we high up or leading at the moment?

It looks like we're just bossing it in all areas.
 
ricky2tricky4city said:
I'm not really a stats man. I read them in passing but don't get all giddy about them.

However, looking at the goals scored/conceded from corners post, it has got me thinking, how many of the more telling/critical stats are we high up or leading at the moment?

It looks like we're just bossing it in all areas.
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We're doing well on a lot of stats (as can be expected):

-2nd most shots per game with 17 (City top with 17.3)
-Most shots on goal in total with 184 (City a distant 2nd with 150)
-6th most clean sheets with 9 (Arsenal, Manu and Southampton top with 12)
-5th most possession with 55% (Arsenal top with 56%)
-7th highest pass completion rate with 80.2% (Arsenal top with 84.1%)
-6th highest tackles per game with 20.6 (Liverpool top with 23.2)
-4th most interceptions with 557 in total (Saudi Sportswashing Machine top with 590)
-Most goals scored tied with Leicester at 49
-Fewest goals conceded with 21
-Second most yellow cards with 53 (Villa have the most with 55), but crucially no red cards as of yet
-3rd most fouls with 340 (United have the most with 346)
-3rd most corners with 181 (Liverpool have the most with 188)
-8th most crosses with 511 (United have the most with 595)
-We have the longest winning streak, longest current winning streak, longest current home winning streak and longest unbeaten streak.


Not all of those all that relevant perhaps. But since you asked ;)
 
milo said:
I don't get it personally. All you are doing is criticising stats and those that have an interest in them.
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I love stats but I have not the slightest problem with someone coming in and farting all over them. The best will still come up smelling of roses ;)
 
braineclipse said:
We're doing well on a lot of stats (as can be expected):

-2nd most shots per game with 17 (City top with 17.3)
-Most shots on goal in total with 184 (City a distant 2nd with 150)
-6th most clean sheets with 9 (Arsenal, Manu and Southampton top with 12)
-5th most possession with 55% (Arsenal top with 56%)
-7th highest pass completion rate with 80.2% (Arsenal top with 84.1%)
-6th highest tackles per game with 20.6 (Liverpool top with 23.2)
-4th most interceptions with 557 in total (Saudi Sportswashing Machine top with 590)
-Most goals scored tied with Leicester at 49
-Fewest goals conceded with 21
-Second most yellow cards with 53 (Villa have the most with 55), but crucially no red cards as of yet
-3rd most fouls with 340 (United have the most with 346)
-3rd most corners with 181 (Liverpool have the most with 188)
-8th most crosses with 511 (United have the most with 595)
-We have the longest winning streak, longest current winning streak, longest current home winning streak and longest unbeaten streak.


Not all of those all that relevant perhaps. But since you asked ;)
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So if we use the statistics to predict the game vs manure, it will be a game of endless fouls and crosses.
 
Barring an eight goal negative swing in the final five games, this season will see us post our best goal difference since 1963.
 
We have already surpassed our points total from last season with 5 games to go and in our record points season of 2012/13 we had 61 points at this stage of the campaign. We finished with 3 wins and 2 draws to end up at 72. The same results would see us this year with 76, but I think we'll hit 78.
 
Spurs dropped seven points this season after Europa League fixtures, the exact extent of Leicester’s lead at the top.
 
NaijaSpurs said:
Spurs dropped seven points this season after Europa League fixtures, the exact extent of Leicester’s lead at the top.
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I don't think EL had anything to do with it. We played 10 of 33 games after an EL tie and dropped 7 points. We played 23 games after not having an EL game and dropped 27 points. Proportionally that's almost twice as bad.
 
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alekaras said:
I don't think EL had anything to do with it. We played 10 of 33 games after an EL tie and dropped 7 points. We played 23 games after not having an EL game and dropped 27 points. Proportionally that's about the same, if not a little worse.
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Indeed, there is still the myth about that we are brick after games in the EL and its massively overstated.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/35146716
 
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