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The Spanish Football Thread

there is something not right about Ronaldo lately, he's being incredibly selfish even by his own standards
 
Jurgen the German said:
I'm not denying he's an vital player and a player who Ronaldo feeds off, but bare in mind he has scored a goal a game or better before Modric was even there.
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Of course. But then they had other players being the main creative/buildup players like Alonso. Right now I think they depend on Modric very heavily.
 
 
SteveAWOL said:
Real Madrid have been fined twice in the past 2 years due to their fans displaying Nazi banners at games...

Four Real Madrid fans fined for displaying Nazi symbols at soccer match - International - Jerusalem Post

Real Madrid punished for fans' racist behavior - Yahoo Sports

Spanish neo-Nazi detained in Madrid - Spain news

Real Madrid 'to remove ultras fan group' - ESPN FC

Tens of Thousands of Anti-Semitic Tweets as Real Madrid Beaten by Maccabi Tel Aviv in Basketball's Euroleague Final
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I meant a source for me saying all clubs have fans displaying nazi symbols at games as per your post,

SteveAWOL said:
Galeforce seems to think that every club has fans who unfurl Swastikas at games... :eek:
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what did I post to suggest that that's an accurate statement?

not all racists are nazis

I have no doubt that there are scumbags in the fan base, I'm not arguing that, but all succesful brands attract unsavoury customers, I'm sure plenty of white supremacists buy iPads and coca-cola as well but that doesn't dampen my enjoyment of those products either
 
galeforce said:
I meant a source for me saying all clubs have fans displaying nazi symbols at games as per your post,



what did I post to suggest that that's an accurate statement?

not all racists are nazis

I have no doubt that there are scumbags in the fan base, I'm not arguing that, but all succesful brands attract unsavoury customers, I'm sure plenty of white supremacists buy iPads and coca-cola as well but that doesn't dampen my enjoyment of those products either
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You were the one who appeared to imply that a few mindless bigots who might happen to follow Barcelona or Spurs is just as bad as Real Madrid' infamous Ultras being overt Nazi sympathisers.

Whilst I concur that every global brand is inevitably going to have some unsavoury customers, not many have such a despicable association with fascism stretching back over half a century like Real Madrid; which is why I loathe that club as much as you do Liverpool!

 
SteveAWOL said:
You were the one who appeared to imply that a few mindless bigots who might happen to follow Barcelona or Spurs is just as bad as Real Madrid' infamous Ultras being overt Nazi sympathisers.

Whilst I concur that every global brand is inevitably going to have some unsavoury customers, not many have such a despicable association with fascism stretching back over half a century like Real Madrid; which is why I loathe that club as much as you do Liverpool!

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I didn't reference Barca, and does "appeared to imply" match "Galeforce seems to think that every club has fans who unfurl Swastikas at games" or is that not a massive supposition?

I most certainly do not suggest that and I resent the accusation.

Football history is sadly filled with odious displays of racial, political and social hatred, most of which has come from the fans not from the players, you have to separate the performers from the patrons, i'm not going to hold Bale, Modric et al to any kind of account based on the actions of others.

Your mileage may of course vary, your are welcome to loathe whoever for your own reasons, what you are not welcome to do is put such sweeping inaccurate and offensive statements in my mouth.
 
I met a Spanish fella the other day who was a huge A.Madrid fan. Got talking to him about Spanish football and wanted to ask him if he also thought Balague was full of brick.. turns out neither him or his mate have any idea who he is! Must just be a Sky pundit.
 
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