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The Goon Thread
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WillWeEverBeGoodAgain
Johnny nice-tits
Mikel Arteta has responded to criticism of Arsenal's tactics from rival managers by saying he is "upset" they "haven't scored more" from corners.
The Gunners' prowess at set-pieces continues to fuel their title charge, with Sunday's victory over Chelsea the ninth time they have scored a match-winning goal from a corner this season.
But they have also been at the forefront of recent discussions around grappling and blocking at set-pieces, with Everton boss David Moyes identifying Arteta's side as the trailblazers for the use of "dark arts".
Fabian Hurzeler, whose Brighton said host the Premier League leaders on Wednesday, has called for stricter rules around set-pieces and criticised Arsenal for time-wasting.
Seagulls head coach Hurzeler claimed the Gunners sometimes wait "over one minute" to take their corners.
Arteta said such criticism was "part of the job" as he doubled down on their approach.
"I am upset we haven't scored more and that we have conceded [from set-pieces] as well," Arteta told a news conference.
"We want to be the best and most dominant team in every aspect of the game. That is the trajectory and the aim of this team."
Arsenal have scored the most goals (58) and conceded the fewest (22) in the Premier League. Their goal difference of +36 is therefore the highest.
They are way ahead on goals scored from set-pieces, including penalties, with 21 compared to Manchester United's 15 in second.
Sixteen of their goals this season - 27.6% - have come from corners. Spurs are top of that particular table, having scored 13 of their 38 goals from corners - a total of 34.2%.
Arteta said the increase in set-piece threat was because football is "evolving" and becoming "more and more difficult" from a tactical perspective.
He added: "Teams are adapting, teams know after every sequence of play - whether it is a throw-in, a restart of play, an open-pitch situation - after that, they know exactly what they have to do and everything is almost man to man.
"So it is not going to be a different game, unless we change the rules, because the evolution of the game is that."
Statistics show that, on average, no Premier League team take longer to restart from corners than Arsenal.
Asked why he believes Arsenal's approach to set-pieces has received the level of attention it has, Hurzeler said: "There are no clear rules any more [around] how much time you can spend taking a corner or a throw-in.
"Some of the ways teams are blocking, there's no real rule. Sometimes the referee whistles and it's a foul, sometimes it isn't a foul or they don't whistle.
"[We need] a clear rule on how much time you can take for a corner, a free-kick, because no-one recognises it. When Arsenal have a corner and they are leading, sometimes they spend over one minute just to take a corner."
Hurzeler also pointed to the responsibility he feels clubs have to ensure match-going fans are being provided with value for money.
"Every supporter pays a lot of money to watch our games and should see the same game time," Hurzeler said.
"They want to see a football event, not maybe 50 minutes when the ball is in the game and 40 minutes when the game is not running," Hurzeler said.
"But we won't change these rules immediately. We know how important set-pieces are. At the moment it's a big trend in the league and we definitely need to adapt to it."
Matches involving Hurzeler's Brighton have the ball in play 56.2% of the time - the fifth-highest in the league, above seventh-ranked Arsenal (55.7%).
The Gunners' average delay time over free-kicks, goal-kicks and throw-ins is in keeping with other Premier League clubs.
But their average 44.35-second delay at corners is almost 50% longer than that of Chelsea, who they defeated with their 15th and 16th league goals from corner routines this season.
The Gunners' prowess at set-pieces continues to fuel their title charge, with Sunday's victory over Chelsea the ninth time they have scored a match-winning goal from a corner this season.
But they have also been at the forefront of recent discussions around grappling and blocking at set-pieces, with Everton boss David Moyes identifying Arteta's side as the trailblazers for the use of "dark arts".
Fabian Hurzeler, whose Brighton said host the Premier League leaders on Wednesday, has called for stricter rules around set-pieces and criticised Arsenal for time-wasting.
Seagulls head coach Hurzeler claimed the Gunners sometimes wait "over one minute" to take their corners.
Arteta said such criticism was "part of the job" as he doubled down on their approach.
"I am upset we haven't scored more and that we have conceded [from set-pieces] as well," Arteta told a news conference.
"We want to be the best and most dominant team in every aspect of the game. That is the trajectory and the aim of this team."
Arsenal have scored the most goals (58) and conceded the fewest (22) in the Premier League. Their goal difference of +36 is therefore the highest.
They are way ahead on goals scored from set-pieces, including penalties, with 21 compared to Manchester United's 15 in second.
Sixteen of their goals this season - 27.6% - have come from corners. Spurs are top of that particular table, having scored 13 of their 38 goals from corners - a total of 34.2%.
Arteta said the increase in set-piece threat was because football is "evolving" and becoming "more and more difficult" from a tactical perspective.
He added: "Teams are adapting, teams know after every sequence of play - whether it is a throw-in, a restart of play, an open-pitch situation - after that, they know exactly what they have to do and everything is almost man to man.
"So it is not going to be a different game, unless we change the rules, because the evolution of the game is that."
Statistics show that, on average, no Premier League team take longer to restart from corners than Arsenal.
Asked why he believes Arsenal's approach to set-pieces has received the level of attention it has, Hurzeler said: "There are no clear rules any more [around] how much time you can spend taking a corner or a throw-in.
"Some of the ways teams are blocking, there's no real rule. Sometimes the referee whistles and it's a foul, sometimes it isn't a foul or they don't whistle.
"[We need] a clear rule on how much time you can take for a corner, a free-kick, because no-one recognises it. When Arsenal have a corner and they are leading, sometimes they spend over one minute just to take a corner."
Hurzeler also pointed to the responsibility he feels clubs have to ensure match-going fans are being provided with value for money.
"Every supporter pays a lot of money to watch our games and should see the same game time," Hurzeler said.
"They want to see a football event, not maybe 50 minutes when the ball is in the game and 40 minutes when the game is not running," Hurzeler said.
"But we won't change these rules immediately. We know how important set-pieces are. At the moment it's a big trend in the league and we definitely need to adapt to it."
Matches involving Hurzeler's Brighton have the ball in play 56.2% of the time - the fifth-highest in the league, above seventh-ranked Arsenal (55.7%).
The Gunners' average delay time over free-kicks, goal-kicks and throw-ins is in keeping with other Premier League clubs.
But their average 44.35-second delay at corners is almost 50% longer than that of Chelsea, who they defeated with their 15th and 16th league goals from corner routines this season.
WillWeEverBeGoodAgain
Johnny nice-tits
2nd, 4th and 5th are surprising
Kandi1977
Teddy Sheringham
Yet there is a stat that keeps being shared around that has us creating 0 chances from set pieces all season. How's that possible when we've scored 13 from set pieces?
El Dante
Paul Walsh
How are Chelsea not a LOT higher?