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Jack L. Jones
Putting faith in Arsenal's losing streak helps ease Tottenham pain
With Arsenal having gone nine years without silverware, as a Spurs fan there's pleasure in willing the streak to reach a decade
Arsenal, it gets mentioned, have gone some while without lifting a trophy. The club's nine-year losing run includes appearances in major finals, credible title tilts, giants toppled, but nothing tangible won – no cups with ribbons, no oversized Euro tin, not a shield. And I admit that, as a non-fan, some sympathy has welled up in me as Arsenal's long, unaccountable streak has run on and on. I've taken a stake in the matter. Fringe interest has turned into genuine concern. I care.
Come on you streak!
Design Arsenal's losing streak a kit, I often think, and I'll wear it during pivotal matches. Let's write it a Latin motto. This is a big time for us: Arsène Wenger's side have an FA Cup semi-final against Wigan of the Championship on Saturday. Win that, and low-flyers Hull or Sheffield United will be waiting. If they make it to the final I really think the streak is worth its own charity pop song. April and May are going to be absolutely huge, make or break. Streak! Streak! Streak!
Plenty of fans tend a quiet loyalty to a second team. A different-division side in the UK, if not Barcelona, one of the Milans, a Madrid. Celtic and Liverpool fans share a mutual fancy that dates back decades and West Ham, by obscure tradition, are meant to be everyone's backup if they haven't already got one. Arsenal themselves, reliably slick, command a lot of incidental affection … For me it's the streak, has been for nine excellent years, and I follow its ups and downs with the same keen, brittle concern I allow my real club.
There have been near-run things. This allegiance hasn't always been easy. There was that Champions League turnaround, against Frank Rijkaard's Barça, the streak still very much in its infancy and only hinting at its glorious future. In the Carling Cup final, three seasons ago, Laurent Koscielny almost didn't muff a back-pass, allowing Birmingham their winning goal. And I won't forget the rocky run-in, shortly afterwards, when Aaron Ramsey's strike against Manchester United blew the title race wide open ... Again and again the streak prevailed. Good old streak. Oh when the streak! Goes marching in! I'll be gutted to see it go.
My first club are Spurs. Sad, striving Spurs – so inventive, year after on year, in their method of distressing the fans. Seven managers sacked in a decade, awesome talent let go, and a single Champions League campaign when there might have been three or four had we a drip of extra luck. Is it any wonder that my affections have divided? That I've drifted towards the glamour?
Arsenal's streak gets to pit itself against the best in Europe, year after year. Treacherous departures (Cesc Fàbregas to Barcelona, Robin van Persie to United) only strengthens it. Meanwhile my mental highlight reel is magnificent, an unforgettable hat-trick by Lionel Messi, strikes by Cristiano Ronaldo and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, not to mention cheeky prod-ins by Colin Kazim-Richards, Ricardo Fuller ... Who can claim an attacking history like it?
I'm always amazed to discover there are football fans who don't care much, one way or the other, about the fortunes of their rivals. Yeah, they'll muster up some cartoon ill-will for derby matches, and diligently stand uuuup if they hate so-and-so. But the majority of supporters, from what I can tell, prefer to support rather than wallow in schadenfreude. I feel they're missing out.
There's an extra richness when you loathe a rival team as much as you like your own. The season goes twice as long as each weekend brings two results to root for. Losses can be hedged against losses. A draw doesn't seem so bad. Victories might get double-distilled. Oh, those rare Match of the Days, when on the same day Spurs have done well and Arsenal been disgraced – heaven.
For the particular potency of my feelings towards Arsenal (this therapy-worthy venom) I claim special allowance. The school I went to was majority Gooner, and seven years of corridor chat there coincided with the early, ultra-successful phase of Wenger's reign, when Arsenal turned flash and won the double; meanwhile Spurs pinned their hopes on Christian Gross, a manager whose principal innovation was to deny captain Gary Mabbutt his pre-match omelette. Mondays at school, August through May, were rarely hilarious.
As an adult, somehow, I've tended to end up in houses and flats within Arsenal-supporting territory (an area that, in my defence, now seems to cover all of London above Euston, excepting a thin strip around the A10 and certain loyal Tottenham outposts at the Essex end of the District Line). Where I live all the bookmakers, knowing their market, put up teasing signs telling you how much you can win if Spurs get thumped to nil by Cardiff City, or by Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk ... "We exist!" I want to tell these bookies. "We're allowed to live in north London, too."
Currently, ridiculously, I'm so close to the Emirates I can hear goal cheers, even the loudspeaker confirmation of scorers, through my lounge window. Red and white scarves everywhere. Kids too young to know with "INVINCIBLES" written on their backs. When the stadium empties into the neighbourhood I reckon I can tell how thoroughly Arsenal have battered some relegatee by how briskly the 20-somethings with Olivier Giroud haircuts rub their hands together. By how many teeth they bare.
That lofty, our-pitch-is-our-canvas superiority, the one Arsenal fans practically stagger about under the weight of – has flavoured half my life. They've placed above us, now, for 18 seasons in a row. They won the league at White Hart Lane (2004). They took Sol Campbell (2001). The FA Cup parade, if Arsenal go all the way, will very likely plough within metres of my front door.
So one more season, streak, give me that. Let's make it a round decade.
Come. On. You. Streak.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/apr/05/arsenal-tottenham-hotspur-spurs-losing-streak
With Arsenal having gone nine years without silverware, as a Spurs fan there's pleasure in willing the streak to reach a decade
Arsenal, it gets mentioned, have gone some while without lifting a trophy. The club's nine-year losing run includes appearances in major finals, credible title tilts, giants toppled, but nothing tangible won – no cups with ribbons, no oversized Euro tin, not a shield. And I admit that, as a non-fan, some sympathy has welled up in me as Arsenal's long, unaccountable streak has run on and on. I've taken a stake in the matter. Fringe interest has turned into genuine concern. I care.
Come on you streak!
Design Arsenal's losing streak a kit, I often think, and I'll wear it during pivotal matches. Let's write it a Latin motto. This is a big time for us: Arsène Wenger's side have an FA Cup semi-final against Wigan of the Championship on Saturday. Win that, and low-flyers Hull or Sheffield United will be waiting. If they make it to the final I really think the streak is worth its own charity pop song. April and May are going to be absolutely huge, make or break. Streak! Streak! Streak!
Plenty of fans tend a quiet loyalty to a second team. A different-division side in the UK, if not Barcelona, one of the Milans, a Madrid. Celtic and Liverpool fans share a mutual fancy that dates back decades and West Ham, by obscure tradition, are meant to be everyone's backup if they haven't already got one. Arsenal themselves, reliably slick, command a lot of incidental affection … For me it's the streak, has been for nine excellent years, and I follow its ups and downs with the same keen, brittle concern I allow my real club.
There have been near-run things. This allegiance hasn't always been easy. There was that Champions League turnaround, against Frank Rijkaard's Barça, the streak still very much in its infancy and only hinting at its glorious future. In the Carling Cup final, three seasons ago, Laurent Koscielny almost didn't muff a back-pass, allowing Birmingham their winning goal. And I won't forget the rocky run-in, shortly afterwards, when Aaron Ramsey's strike against Manchester United blew the title race wide open ... Again and again the streak prevailed. Good old streak. Oh when the streak! Goes marching in! I'll be gutted to see it go.
My first club are Spurs. Sad, striving Spurs – so inventive, year after on year, in their method of distressing the fans. Seven managers sacked in a decade, awesome talent let go, and a single Champions League campaign when there might have been three or four had we a drip of extra luck. Is it any wonder that my affections have divided? That I've drifted towards the glamour?
Arsenal's streak gets to pit itself against the best in Europe, year after year. Treacherous departures (Cesc Fàbregas to Barcelona, Robin van Persie to United) only strengthens it. Meanwhile my mental highlight reel is magnificent, an unforgettable hat-trick by Lionel Messi, strikes by Cristiano Ronaldo and Zlatan Ibrahimovic, not to mention cheeky prod-ins by Colin Kazim-Richards, Ricardo Fuller ... Who can claim an attacking history like it?
I'm always amazed to discover there are football fans who don't care much, one way or the other, about the fortunes of their rivals. Yeah, they'll muster up some cartoon ill-will for derby matches, and diligently stand uuuup if they hate so-and-so. But the majority of supporters, from what I can tell, prefer to support rather than wallow in schadenfreude. I feel they're missing out.
There's an extra richness when you loathe a rival team as much as you like your own. The season goes twice as long as each weekend brings two results to root for. Losses can be hedged against losses. A draw doesn't seem so bad. Victories might get double-distilled. Oh, those rare Match of the Days, when on the same day Spurs have done well and Arsenal been disgraced – heaven.
For the particular potency of my feelings towards Arsenal (this therapy-worthy venom) I claim special allowance. The school I went to was majority Gooner, and seven years of corridor chat there coincided with the early, ultra-successful phase of Wenger's reign, when Arsenal turned flash and won the double; meanwhile Spurs pinned their hopes on Christian Gross, a manager whose principal innovation was to deny captain Gary Mabbutt his pre-match omelette. Mondays at school, August through May, were rarely hilarious.
As an adult, somehow, I've tended to end up in houses and flats within Arsenal-supporting territory (an area that, in my defence, now seems to cover all of London above Euston, excepting a thin strip around the A10 and certain loyal Tottenham outposts at the Essex end of the District Line). Where I live all the bookmakers, knowing their market, put up teasing signs telling you how much you can win if Spurs get thumped to nil by Cardiff City, or by Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk ... "We exist!" I want to tell these bookies. "We're allowed to live in north London, too."
Currently, ridiculously, I'm so close to the Emirates I can hear goal cheers, even the loudspeaker confirmation of scorers, through my lounge window. Red and white scarves everywhere. Kids too young to know with "INVINCIBLES" written on their backs. When the stadium empties into the neighbourhood I reckon I can tell how thoroughly Arsenal have battered some relegatee by how briskly the 20-somethings with Olivier Giroud haircuts rub their hands together. By how many teeth they bare.
That lofty, our-pitch-is-our-canvas superiority, the one Arsenal fans practically stagger about under the weight of – has flavoured half my life. They've placed above us, now, for 18 seasons in a row. They won the league at White Hart Lane (2004). They took Sol Campbell (2001). The FA Cup parade, if Arsenal go all the way, will very likely plough within metres of my front door.
So one more season, streak, give me that. Let's make it a round decade.
Come. On. You. Streak.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/apr/05/arsenal-tottenham-hotspur-spurs-losing-streak
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Wigan fans at work are convinced they can do it next weekend.
All the pressure is on Arsnal, none whatsoever on Wigan. Wembley is almost becoming a 2nd home for the Pieman, so much so they havent sold out their full allocation (so I am told), as they know they will be returning again for the play-offs next month.
Some gooners will be checking Google Earth to find out how to get there
The odds are that Arsnal will prevail, but its definitely not the certainty people think it is
All the pressure is on Arsnal, none whatsoever on Wigan. Wembley is almost becoming a 2nd home for the Pieman, so much so they havent sold out their full allocation (so I am told), as they know they will be returning again for the play-offs next month.
Some gooners will be checking Google Earth to find out how to get there
The odds are that Arsnal will prevail, but its definitely not the certainty people think it is
jurgen lineker
Radek Cerny
Rorschach
Ricky Villa
I stuck Mertesacker, Sagna and Szczesny into my FF team after that match and I've have **** all points from them since.
markysimmo
Johnny nice-tits
I genuinely fancy them to beat Arsenal
Lemonade Money
Les Medley
Keep up the good work.
Baleforce
Les Bennett
I went and put my entire betfair credit on them winning the league, money we'll spent
Baleforce
Les Bennett
paxtonwolf
Tony Marchi
Did pretty much the same, Mertesacker,Sagna,Giroud and Arteta. I've had already a minus points week for that quartet, and this weekend wasnt much better with the sending off.
I'm dropping like a stone...and long may it continue!
I
indianspur
Guest
in his post match interview did Martinez mention Arsanals negative spiral ????
Baleforce
Les Bennett
yep, via the medium of break dance
I like to think of him as being injured as default, occasionally suffering short periods of fitness.
Bullet
Colin Calderwood
Has this Cazorla 442 interview been posted? Fark me, brutally honest. What a twunt.
Arsenal have won just two of their last nine league games, form that has seen them slip to fourth in the table after topping it for much of the campaign.
The Emirates Stadium outfit have not won a trophy since 2005 and are now relying on the FA Cup to break that drought, with a semi-final against champions Wigan Athletic at Wembley to come on Saturday.
Arsene Wenger's men were bundled out of the UEFA Champions League by Bayern Munich at the round of 16 stage this season and Spain midfielder Cazorla has earmarked Arsenal's mental fragility as the reason for their late-season slump.
Cazorla also urged the club to recruit strongly in the close-season, telling Sport 360: "Arsenal has everything to win.
"History, infrastructure, an incredible stadium and great players, but we have to improve at crucial moments and sign the best football players because if you don't do that, you may lag behind others.
"That is what makes it different at other clubs. You've a good example in Emirates Marketing Project who signed Fernandinho, (Alvaro) Negredo, or even Manchester United with (Robin) van Persie and (Juan) Mata.
"Arsenal know what they need next season, but it's almost impossible to win a title if we haven't got these kind of things.
"We haven't got a winning mentality and we have to believe in ourselves. Sometimes you can get used to not fighting, but we can't do that. Arsenal is and will always be a historic football club and we have to look forward.
"We couldn't recover after going out against Bayern in the Champions League and the defeat against Stoke finished us (in the league). You can't lose against Stoke if you aspire to be the next champion."
Cazorla - who joined Arsenal from Malaga in 2012 - also hinted that he may leave the club in order to compete for titles.
"I want titles and that is why I came to Arsenal," he added. "Every football player wants to win titles. We've gone many years without winning one. And if not, what I'll look for in my next destination is to have the chance to win.
"When I'm turning 31 I'll evaluate myself and I'll choose the best option. In which case, I would be delighted to come back (to Spain)."
Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/cazorla-arsenal-lack-winning-mentality#ibg7c6cBJYxuM2Z2.99
Arsenal have won just two of their last nine league games, form that has seen them slip to fourth in the table after topping it for much of the campaign.
The Emirates Stadium outfit have not won a trophy since 2005 and are now relying on the FA Cup to break that drought, with a semi-final against champions Wigan Athletic at Wembley to come on Saturday.
Arsene Wenger's men were bundled out of the UEFA Champions League by Bayern Munich at the round of 16 stage this season and Spain midfielder Cazorla has earmarked Arsenal's mental fragility as the reason for their late-season slump.
Cazorla also urged the club to recruit strongly in the close-season, telling Sport 360: "Arsenal has everything to win.
"History, infrastructure, an incredible stadium and great players, but we have to improve at crucial moments and sign the best football players because if you don't do that, you may lag behind others.
"That is what makes it different at other clubs. You've a good example in Emirates Marketing Project who signed Fernandinho, (Alvaro) Negredo, or even Manchester United with (Robin) van Persie and (Juan) Mata.
"Arsenal know what they need next season, but it's almost impossible to win a title if we haven't got these kind of things.
"We haven't got a winning mentality and we have to believe in ourselves. Sometimes you can get used to not fighting, but we can't do that. Arsenal is and will always be a historic football club and we have to look forward.
"We couldn't recover after going out against Bayern in the Champions League and the defeat against Stoke finished us (in the league). You can't lose against Stoke if you aspire to be the next champion."
Cazorla - who joined Arsenal from Malaga in 2012 - also hinted that he may leave the club in order to compete for titles.
"I want titles and that is why I came to Arsenal," he added. "Every football player wants to win titles. We've gone many years without winning one. And if not, what I'll look for in my next destination is to have the chance to win.
"When I'm turning 31 I'll evaluate myself and I'll choose the best option. In which case, I would be delighted to come back (to Spain)."
Read more at http://www.fourfourtwo.com/news/cazorla-arsenal-lack-winning-mentality#ibg7c6cBJYxuM2Z2.99
