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The Goon Thread
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Definitely, look at us last week and this.
Jurgen the German
Erik Thorstvedt
They were 10 points behind us last season, and they made that up in 4 games.
Howard Webb
Clive Wilson
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
Another angle; leaving him in charge means they don't get Pep.
Another angle; leaving him in charge means they don't get Pep.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
We more than most teams should know that it is in these supposedly easy games, that the nasty surprises tend to happen. I can see them dropping points in at least two maybe three of these games. Wigan (a), West Ham (h) and Saints (a).
Here's hoping anyway!
thfcsteff
George Hunt
agreed, gooner filth or not, this bloke is just not fudging funny
milo
Jack L. Jones
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
I'm trying to think of an example where moving a long standing manager upstairs has worked.
I'm trying to think of an example where moving a long standing manager upstairs has worked.
awesome dawson
Mitchell Thomas
Danners9
Luke Young
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
If a different question was asked, maybe.
This one is just an opinion based on their performances, signings, protests by their fans. They will get results and do ok but it says a lot that their ambitions have moved from 1st/2nd to finishing 4th. Maybe he's not being given the backing, maybe he's not using the backing... and in that case, would they be better off with someone else.
If a different question was asked, maybe.
This one is just an opinion based on their performances, signings, protests by their fans. They will get results and do ok but it says a lot that their ambitions have moved from 1st/2nd to finishing 4th. Maybe he's not being given the backing, maybe he's not using the backing... and in that case, would they be better off with someone else.
Hotshot-Tottenham
Edgar Davids
speaking of that, i heard on the radio that chelsea were 4 clear and are now 10 behind, so that even eclipses our collapse, in a shorter space of time too!
Hotshot-Tottenham
Edgar Davids
really they should be unbeaten in that run, winning 4 or 5.
let's see where we all are after Christmas...
ALtottenham_hotspur
Jamie Redknapp
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
i don't like wenger but u have to give him some credit, he's done very well since they moved into their home. he's has spent money but nothing like city, utd, chelsea or Liverpool yet they finish top 4. im glad arsenal have the boardroom fighting cos if they had given wenger some real money he wud of won a lot more
i don't like wenger but u have to give him some credit, he's done very well since they moved into their home. he's has spent money but nothing like city, utd, chelsea or Liverpool yet they finish top 4. im glad arsenal have the boardroom fighting cos if they had given wenger some real money he wud of won a lot more
Klinsmania
Bobby Zamora
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
I said yes, I think his stubborn refusal to buy the types of players that Arsenal so desperately need is seriously holding them back. Whilst I think it's admirable that he chooses to try and develop youngsters rather than buy established star players, there needs to be a balance. For a team like them, with a big fanbase and a 60,000 seat stadium, playing in the champions league every year, it's scandalous that they are unable to compete at the very highest level. I reckon if somebody else came in with a decent pedigree, they'd do a better job. They might not have the same knack for spotting talent, or be as good tactically, but I'm sure they'd make up for that with spending money, even if it's only short-term success.
I said yes, I think his stubborn refusal to buy the types of players that Arsenal so desperately need is seriously holding them back. Whilst I think it's admirable that he chooses to try and develop youngsters rather than buy established star players, there needs to be a balance. For a team like them, with a big fanbase and a 60,000 seat stadium, playing in the champions league every year, it's scandalous that they are unable to compete at the very highest level. I reckon if somebody else came in with a decent pedigree, they'd do a better job. They might not have the same knack for spotting talent, or be as good tactically, but I'm sure they'd make up for that with spending money, even if it's only short-term success.
Re: Would our neighbors be better off without Wenger?
So no they won't, but if they were interested in the long term interest of the club, Wenger would go, as would some members of the board.
While everyone on this board does the usual, lets wait until we finish above them before saying anything against Wenger, reality is, he and the club have been on the downward slide for some time now.
- Finishing above Spurs means nothing (besides aggravating us), fact is, the Scum have had an established manager for 15 years, a set style of play, a decade of CL experience, a very high wage bill and up until recently a few World Class players in the side.
- Reality is, if RVP played for Tottenham last year, we could have probably won the title with Redknapp, Wenger managed (with a lot of luck, including a keeper making three mistakes in the same game) to better us by 1 point.
- At his best, he never had a plan B, now he has deity status, the board is obviously not interested in anything beyond consistent CL at lowest possible re-investment, he has lost the plot/time is up/whatever.
Problem for the Scum is Wenger is respected, players will come to play for him, the club is his system, he has experience in EPL/CL/etc. as well as understanding the clubs current expenditure policy.
Any new manager has a ton of areas to address, is unlikely to either get that kind of funds, or is unlikely to outspend the Manchester sides, will get a step backward and the Scum probably can't afford it. If they drop out of CL and we take their spot, they might not get it back for a long time.
So no they won't, but if they were interested in the long term interest of the club, Wenger would go, as would some members of the board.
While everyone on this board does the usual, lets wait until we finish above them before saying anything against Wenger, reality is, he and the club have been on the downward slide for some time now.
- Finishing above Spurs means nothing (besides aggravating us), fact is, the Scum have had an established manager for 15 years, a set style of play, a decade of CL experience, a very high wage bill and up until recently a few World Class players in the side.
- Reality is, if RVP played for Tottenham last year, we could have probably won the title with Redknapp, Wenger managed (with a lot of luck, including a keeper making three mistakes in the same game) to better us by 1 point.
- At his best, he never had a plan B, now he has deity status, the board is obviously not interested in anything beyond consistent CL at lowest possible re-investment, he has lost the plot/time is up/whatever.
Problem for the Scum is Wenger is respected, players will come to play for him, the club is his system, he has experience in EPL/CL/etc. as well as understanding the clubs current expenditure policy.
Any new manager has a ton of areas to address, is unlikely to either get that kind of funds, or is unlikely to outspend the Manchester sides, will get a step backward and the Scum probably can't afford it. If they drop out of CL and we take their spot, they might not get it back for a long time.