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Bullet said:
This is a good post with lots of valid points.
But for balance, I wanted to mention that the pod did resonate and I did agree with the points they made.

I want Spurs to be a really toppety top team, and to achieve that we need to bring in shedloads of revenue and spend it wisely. So the main route to that is to get CL money, as that is where all the money is. Then we have a CHANCE to spend it wisely and not waste it.
Cups are nice, but I want us to be toppety topmost for a sustained period of time, say 2 or 3 hundred years.
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As always thanks for your perspective mate, appreciated.
 
I enjoyed the pod, but it's a real shame @milo and @gdpr81 hardly ever post on this forum any more.
And during the game they just post on their private WhatsApp group with @thfcsteff

So it feels like the podcasters are some separated group who don't interact so much with the forum, although thfcsteff clearly does
 
The rangers fans I know are not looking forward to the EL game, expecting a thumping. I've been offered several tickets.
It will be very different on the night, I expect a raucous atmosphere but if we score first I can see them collapsing.
 
State Of The Nation
Season 5 Episode 23

Steff, Milo, and Gareth tear up the script and go all-in on a Spurs ‘state of the nation’ style discussion. We analyse the current situation we find ourselves in, from injuries to operations, we offer reasons not excuses, we discuss patience in the storm, Milo sings a bit, Steff pulls out possibly his weirdest metaphor yet, and Gareth offers an overview on Anthony Taylor. It’s loose, it’s tight, it’s emotional, it’s rational, it’s Tottenham Hotspur incarnate…

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Really enjoyed this one guys and the format change definitely fitted the current situation we find ourselves in.

The one area - admittedly you did touch on - I think we need to explore / unpack a bit more is all these injuries we’re currently dealing with. VdV, Odobert, Son, Davies, Richarlison, Werner and potentially Romero now have all suffered soft tissue injuries this year. This is a problem.

I get you don’t really deal in ‘speculation’, but I think we - the club? - need to understand the levels of causation here in Ange’s methods. I know we’ve heard that it takes a year or so of bedding in with him, but by definition that means we can never add to the squad as they’ll be always picking up injuries in the first year, which THEN puts pressure on the squad who have ‘acclimatised’, which THEN leads to them getting injured!

As I said in another thread, it seems the way football is going - at the top end - is that teams are going to need bigger squads to manage the inevitable injuries the frequency and intensity the highest level is now played at. Therefore, the more ‘robust’ the squad, the less injuries you get, the more likely you are to play in a more consistent manner, the more likely to be successful you are.

So, to nutshell this ramble, is Ange and his brand of football … fit … - pun intended - for the modern age and the very highest level?

Anyway, I hope it’s just growing pains and we can become more consistent in time, as when we’re good, we are very, very good.
 
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I think the 3 of you hit on one very important point in this podcast - the standard of refereeing. It is a really sad state of affairs that an amateur ref, Steff, called Taylor the best ref in the land. GHod help us.

What we all have to remember is that no football stakeholder has ever given any referee permission to ignore the laws of the game. So the question becomes why do we see it in every single game in the PL and most other high level games? Who cares what UEFA think. The laws are the laws.

The bigger question is what can we do about it to get get the game back to where it needs to be? Arsenal and victims gave their very public votes of no confidence to PGMOL and I think that helped. I think we should find a way eventually.

If I were Spurs (lol - or if I was a very rich man) I would hire analysts to watch every single PL game from the sole perspective of the laws of the game. The denominator would be every single incident in the game that needed an action from the officials. The numerator would be the amount that the officials got right based solely on the laws of the game. If an incident is missed then it would go into the denominator and not the numerator. It would score against the referees.

Then I would make sure that everyone in football gets to see very transparently the statistical performance of the referees. I would make sure the stats go absolutely viral in a way that we change that bad culture that exists within the refereeing fraternity. I would probably tell those analysts to head down to step 4 or 5 level and score those referees as well, knowing they would probably score much higher than PGMOL's so called "best". I've seen it with my own eyes and even chatted to these refs.

I find it so disappointing that we are allowing the laws of the game to be ignored by the match officials, the very people who are supposed to be enforcing these laws. It's massively holding the game back.
 
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Sobering pod, lads, as usual. Thank you!
 
Muttley said:
I think the 3 of you hit on one very important point in this podcast - the standard of refereeing. It is a really sad state of affairs that an amateur ref, Steff, called Taylor the best ref in the land. GHod help us.

What we all have to remember is that no football stakeholder has ever given any referee permission to ignore the laws of the game. So the question becomes why do we see it in every single game in the PL and most other high level games? Who cares what UEFA think. The laws are the laws.

The bigger question is what can we do about it to get get the game back to where it needs to be? Arsenal and victims gave their very public votes of no confidence to PGMOL and I think that helped. I think we should find a way eventually.

If I were Spurs (lol - or if I was a very rich man) I would hire analysts to watch every single PL game from the sole perspective of the laws of the game. The denominator would be every single incident in the game that needed an action from the officials. The numerator would be the amount that the officials got right based solely on the laws of the game. If an incident is missed then it would go into the denominator and not the numerator. It would score against the referees.

Then I would make sure that everyone in football gets to see very transparently the statistical performance of the referees. I would make sure the stats go absolutely viral in a way that we change that bad culture that exists within the refereeing fraternity. I would probably tell those analysts to head down to step 4 or 5 level and score those referees as well, knowing they would probably score much higher than PGMOL's so called "best". I've seen it with my own eyes and even chatted to these refs.

I find it so disappointing that we are allowing the laws of the game to be ignored by the match officials, the very people who are supposed to be enforcing these laws. It's massively holding the game back.
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Cheers mate, I will say I did not call Taylor that, but believe I did call him several other words you won't find on the backpages LOL!!!

I agree on having inside analysts watching and knowing the styles of each ref.
 
DaveT316 said:
Really enjoyed this one guys and the format change definitely fitted the current situation we find ourselves in.

The one area - admittedly you did touch on - I think we need to explore / unpack a bit more is all these injuries we’re currently dealing with. VdV, Odobert, Son, Davies, Richarlison, Werner and potentially Romero now have all suffered soft tissue injuries this year. This is a problem.

I get you don’t really deal in ‘speculation’, but I think we - the club? - need to understand the levels of causation here in Ange’s methods. I know we’ve heard that it takes a year or so of bedding in with him, but by definition that means we can never add to the squad as they’ll be always picking up injuries in the first year, which THEN puts pressure on the squad who have ‘acclimatised’, which THEN leads to them getting injured!

As I said in another thread, it seems the way football is going - at the top end - is that teams are going to need bigger squads to manage the inevitable injuries the frequency and intensity the highest level is now played at. Therefore, the more ‘robust’ the squad, the less injuries you get, the more likely you are to play in a more consistent manner, the more likely to be successful you are.

So, to nutshell this ramble, is Ange and his brand of football … fit … - pun intended - for the modern age and the very highest level?

Anyway, I hope it’s just growing pains and we can become more consistent in time, as when we’re good, we are very, very good.
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Cheers mate, and your final question is the one we're all trying to get answered. Yes, agreed, as we've said many times, larger squads and shorter careers are coming given the sheer amounts of football being played globally.
 
thfcsteff said:
Cheers mate, I will say I did not call Taylor that, but believe I did call him several other words you won't find on the backpages LOL!!!

I agree on having inside analysts watching and knowing the styles of each ref.
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Actually, I thought it was you that said Taylor was our best ref because he aligns to what UEFA need. Apologies if I got the wrong man.
 
thfcsteff said:
That was Gareth mate, he's actually a ref himself.
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I dont agree with Gareth’s view on that foul
Taylor is an ok ref at best and does ref the way they ask but it doesn’t make him any good
When refs talk about force and momentum they just make it up
They they a clue
What was clear was Caicido knew he was off and pretended he was injured
And ex player there in VAR would have seen that and called it
 
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Bedfordspurs said:
I dont agree with Gareth’s view on that foul
Taylor is an ok ref at best and does ref the way they ask but it doesn’t make him any good
When refs talk about force and momentum they just make it up
They they a clue
What was clear was Caicido knew he was off and pretended he was injured
And ex player there in VAR would have seen that and caked it
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Totally, referees are now a law to themselves and the football community have normalised to their corruption. PGMOL needs cleaning up.
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I think refs are generally fair
Just not very good
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No, the entire system breaks if they don't follow the laws of the game. Their job is to enforce them, not ignore them.

It is why they should be statistically measured in this day and age to how they performed to the actual laws of the game.
 
Muttley said:
No, the entire system breaks if they don't follow the laws of the game. Their job is to enforce them, not ignore them.

It is why they should be statistically measured in this day and age to how they performed to the actual laws of the game.
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I believe they are
The issue is subjective calls of course
 
Bedfordspurs said:
I believe they are
The issue is subjective calls of course
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This is all about agendas though (not by you). The governance bodies pretend that 80% of decisions the refs make are subjective so they corrupt an entire football structure by implementing things like "clear and obvious" to protect their own. When you really run a game based purely on the laws of the game there are so few things that are subjective. It becomes black and white so quickly. There are some, but they really are the minority.

Football could be so great again if the laws represented the spirit of the game, and the referees upheld these laws.

We now have an entire generation not even realising that what the refs are doing, and what the commentary teams and pundits are talking about isn't representing the laws at all. Gary Neville is about the worst at it. Alan Smith just makes stuff all the time, totally ignoring the laws of the game he's commentating on.
 
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